You haven't even finished Demon's or Dark have ye?

I played tons of kof13. it has terrible to non existent online though, so that kills it in the UK for the most part.

ChopperByrne wrote:

SFxT is a great game. Give it a chance.

Just watched a few of the fights at e3 with Daigo and co and i'm even less sold on this than i was initially. The whole thing just lacks the aesthetic punch of 4 that made it a joy to both watch and play. The backdrops are dull, the music lacks tunes, the effects on the big moves lack visual spark.

Escape wrote:

Street Fighter should have us saying 'I shoulda known he'd do that!' after it's hit. To give players lots of tools for deception, but for that deception to always feel like the players', and not the game's.

I think Smang or Pez mentioned it before you should deffo try Xrd man. It allows for a crazy amount of deceptive play. In movement through the use of the different jump/super jump/diuble jump and air dash options. You have the roman cancel system to mess people up by cancelling your own moves or movement at any time (empty jump yellow cancel into throw best eva). Then there are characters who also have the ability through their individual mechanics to feint stuff or threaten a particular attack to force people indo a guessing game, Bedman, Venom, Ramlethal, Faust and Jack-O immediately spring to mind.

It all adds up to make something that feels the closest to playing Tekken but in a 2d fighter stylee that I've experienced since I've been playing fightmen in terms of having that sense of freedom in how you want to approach your opponent during the neutral game and then deciding how you want to condition them for mixup opportunities during the game.

On the subject of SF5 I finally watched a few vids from E3 that Nerd Josh put up on his channel that were mainly just randoms from the show floor playing. Although the art style seems a bit bland by SF standards, the game looks a lot better than Tekken 7 visually imho, both are being developed on UE4. I couldn't make much assessment of mechanics, but it looks slower than 4, or at least the jumps seemed that way, players seemed to hang in the air for a bit longer, which might discourage the raggo jumping in and encourage a more ground based, footsies heavy game maybe?

I'm off work today so will try and watch a few of the jwong vids while I'm on the can.

thats pretty much exactly how i felt about sfxt, though tbf at least that game had guard cancels.

probably my biggest gripe about sf4 is the lack of things you can do in defence. only crouch tech and block. which has not really been the case since 1995... alpha had counters and 3 had red parries, plus nearly every other fighter they made post 1996 has something to that effect.

5 having IBs and 'alpha counters' is a step in the right direction in my opinion.... i am curious how IBing will work with capcom trying to make everything more casual. if the window is more than 2 or 3 frames it's gonna be everywhere like a mashed dp in your blockstring.

Escape wrote:

Someone on SRK (yeah, what of it?!) was saying how glad he was to see the end of Focus, but at the same time, the game seems empty without a replacement. Then some sisbizzers tear into him. Watching t'vids, I felt the same. As much as I hated backdash-and-EX invincibility, blockstring mash, and FADC escapes, their combined effect on high-level play was pretty deep. Deep in a bad way for me, but there was plenty there to afford complex guessing games. And that's the crux, isn't it: being forced to make relatively blind guesses is bad (especially fuzzies), but being able to predict almost every move is arguably worse. At its best, Street Fighter should have us saying 'I shoulda known he'd do that!' after it's hit. To give players lots of tools for deception, but for that deception to always feel like the players', and not the game's.

Smang wrote:

thats pretty much exactly how i felt about sfxt, though tbf at least that game had guard cancels. probably my biggest gripe about sf4 is the lack of things you can do in defence. only crouch tech and block. which has not really been the case since 1995... alpha had counters and 3 had red parries, plus nearly every other fighter they made post 1996 has something to that effect.

For me, I didn't like this whole 'only Ryu can parry' nonsense.

See this 'Vism' thing though? As I understand it, it currently works a bit like the drive system in Blazblue, and gives the player a character specific effect. What they could do, is provide CvS2 style 'grooves' instead.

If they do, the default would most likely be the Vism mode, but they could also decide to reintroduce 'Alphaisms' like custom combos and alpha counters in one mode, 3rd Strike-esque systems in another 'ism', or even make a full concession to focus attacks with another mode.

Speculation, yeah, but that wouldn't be bad, I lie?

Because right now, I think making a system as dynamic as parrying available to only one character is a dumb idea.

Watched a few videos from E3 too, hadn't seen much of it before that. Not really liking the SFxT vibe from it. Also, they've slowed down the gameplay?

Too many target combos too by the looks of it

Just realised the sf5 hk stage is a remix of old sf3 hk stage.
Think it was 2nd impact or something and that game already featured the noodle on head effect if you ko'd your opponent in the kitchen of the restaurant.

Even then the stage was broken down into a street level part and an inside the restaurant part.
The action moved seamlessly from interior to exterior and vice versa doa style if I remember correctly.
Always did like the earlier sf3 level designs, good to see them return in 5.

If anyone's interested, they're stream SF5 from the Capcom Uk office @:

http://www.twitch.tv/capcomfighters

As in the grime DJ? What the entire fuck

Not even sure what it is about him... pink timberlands, maybe?

Nick it means they can reversal/ultra in the correct direction without losing charge innit. You must have seen Honda/Rog/Bison players using it, it's fairly key for those guys.

also Ricky there seems to be a back roll as well as a quick rise in sf5 now. was there ever just defend in the stuff they've shown or did i completely imagine that?

Not liking Cammy's Mortal Kombat style crossup auto-corrects.

Divekick reverses direction if the hooligan crosses up and I think spin knuckle can pass through opponents and then turns around and crossed up.

May be V-Trigger only though.

yeah the game is looking better in the latest round of videos. 

as someone who recently came off a fairly long sfxt session i will repeat myself and say it still looks like it plays very similarly. also the sfx are very reminiscent of 'stomp', also like sfxt. why does punching a man sound like someone strapped bin lids to their feet?

also Ricky i dunno about brass parries, but they would have been another defensive option, especially when alot of specials look safe on block so far.

also i still play GAROU and will hit you with a shoe!



note to self, don't google B Jenet at work

fullspectrum wrote:

Brooks wrote:

As in the grime DJ? What the entire fuck

Yes, oddly he runs the Capcom endorsed events for London's SF scene. Dudley main.

That is fantastic.