Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain - The Bear and Badger

retroking1981

Just done mission 45. I really struggled with it, probably due to only having a standard rocket launcher.

retroking1981

Ok, I've "completed" it,

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I've still got mission 48 and 50 to go. 48 seems impossible,

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pantyfire

48

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pantyfire

50

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IanHamlett

pantyfire wrote:

48

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I took Quiet along with her anti-materiel (50. Cal) rifle. Plopped her on the hangar roof and she battered them, I also took the gun and grenade launcher with the highest damage that I had at the time.

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pantyfire

Oh dear.

retroking1981

pantyfire wrote:

48

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I took Quiet along with her anti-materiel (50. Cal) rifle. Plopped her on the hangar roof and she battered them, I also took the gun and grenade launcher with the highest damage that I had at the time.

Thats a different mission, 48 is the one where

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retroking1981

So whats the deal with Side Op 110 here? It's got a tick so I've done it right? Why is there a dot to the left as if I haven't? Why is it in bold compared to the rest?

IanHamlett

There are always some side missions that are active. I think it's just so people can grind for cash.

retroking1981

Ah, gotcha. Didn't realise the others couldn't be replayed, never thought to try. Cheers.

IanHamlett

I think they cycle so there are never two side missions in the same area. I've never kept track of them enough to work out the exact system.

pantyfire

retroking1981 wrote:

pantyfire wrote:

48

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I took Quiet along with her anti-materiel (50. Cal) rifle. Plopped her on the hangar roof and she battered them, I also took the gun and grenade launcher with the highest damage that I had at the time.

Thats a different mission, 48 is the one where

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you pick up Code Talker and there's a section with the Skulls sniping at you before you get to Code Talkers location.

Oh that one.
Don't use a Quiet. She gets taken out and goes home fairly quickly.
I cheesed this one. Took d-dog and my biggest sniper rifle. Hid behind rocks and waited very patiently for them to go through their fire and move routines. It took a long, long time and many resupply drops to get past them. It was pants to be honest.

retroking1981

Yeah its a right pain.

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IanHamlett

I don't think you need to replay the replay missions to finish the game. I missed out most of them and still finished it. They should've structured it so they pop up at the end as a treat.

pantyfire

Definitely.
It was in the run for my GOTY but then it goes so rapidly downhill it leaves a bit of a sour taste in the mouth. For me. i woulda been happier if they just cut it short.

retroking1981

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I don't think you need to replay the replay missions to finish the game. I missed out most of them and still finished it. They should've structured it so they pop up at the end as a treat.

Yeah true, I have completed it and seen the true ending but I've only got 48 and 50 to do. After 60hrs I feel compelled to do all 50 especially being so close.

retroking1981

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Definitely.
It was in the run for my GOTY but then it goes so rapidly downhill it leaves a bit of a sour taste in the mouth. For me. i woulda been happier if they just cut it short.

Yeah, theres so much filler it just ends up being a bit of a bloated mess.

Its a real shame as the gameplay is spot on and there's a great game in here. Kojima needed to just release the theatrical cut instead of the unfinished directors cut.

IanHamlett

I've not got a problem with the amount of content, but I would've made more of it optional.

retroking1981

Defo. 30 missions with cut scenes every 3ish to keep that MGS feel and 200 side ops - job done.

Oh...

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IanHamlett

It is really light on bosses. Especially themed bosses.

Bollockoff

No one liked the bisexual Romanian pseudovampire so Koj got pissy.

IanHamlett

Here's some footage from my MGS2 speedrun.

digi

pantyfire wrote:

retroking1981 wrote:

pantyfire wrote:

48

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I took Quiet along with her anti-materiel (50. Cal) rifle. Plopped her on the hangar roof and she battered them, I also took the gun and grenade launcher with the highest damage that I had at the time.

Thats a different mission, 48 is the one where

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you pick up Code Talker and there's a section with the Skulls sniping at you before you get to Code Talkers location.

Oh that one. Don't use a Quiet. She gets taken out and goes home fairly quickly. I cheesed this one. Took d-dog and my biggest sniper rifle. Hid behind rocks and waited very patiently for them to go through their fire and move routines. It took a long, long time and many resupply drops to get past them. It was pants to be honest.

I used the horse and just worked out a route to gallop past them.

retroking1981

Really? I get spotted instantly by them

IanHamlett

If you leave along the river you miss most of the problems.

retroking1981

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If you leave along the river you miss most of the problems.

There's a waterfall at the end though, your forced to walk into their area right? Unless I'm missing a sneaky route up.

I have since upgraded to the sneak suit (I was still rocking the default clothes).

I got distracted with side ops last night, done 80/157 now. I'm half tempted to do the lot but will probably give 48 another shot tonight with my new threads.

IanHamlett

You can't follow the riverbank all the way to the chopper but if you stay as close as possible there aren't many difficulties.

retroking1981

So I upgraded to the sneak suit and pretty much creeped past the skulls unseen and S ranked the mission. I actually found it easier than the first time around with that suit upgrade.

Maybe I should have done that earlier in the game as I done everything apart from 48 and 50 with the OG threads and made it much harder for myself.

Absolutely pissing through the side ops now with it, you don't even need to slow down when creeping up on enemies.

Only mission 50 left now but the sneak suit will be about as useful as sandals without soles for that.

Vela

I'm still only just opening up the second area of the game but am content to roam around in the Afghan region completing all the sideops as they open up.

Did a tank unit side ops mission last night.

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Bollockoff

It's a shame vehicles seem a bit dopey compared to the relative intelligence and effort put into average grunt behaviour. Crew should try and escape if the vehicle's on fire for one.

Sniping unsuspecting tank commanders who are chilling out of the turret hatch.

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