Rev wrote:

If Sunak does that he better find a planet that supports life because if he takes away my kids rights then I'm going to get really angry on social media about it.

What kind of rights are you referring to?  Brexit already fucked a lot of our kid's rights off.

There isnt time left before the GE to leave the ECHR.
Labour have committed to repealing this Rwanda thing.
Without the Rwanda thing the need to leave the ECHR loses its focus.
By 2030 nobody will be talking about the Rwanda deal other than what a colossal failure it was, probably in the context of Sunak's legacy and who was worse him or Truss.


We only leave the ECHR if the Tories are re-elected in the next GE which is highly, highly unlikely.

What should happen is that the loony fraternity leave the Conservative party for Reform after(before?) the next GE (which has been harboured there for decades, tolerated by moderates).

The loonies in Reform will wither on the vine into obscurity  as long as the moderate Tories get a proper leader in place who faces down the idiots Johnson let out of the cage. Having fuckwits like Truss in Reform shouting from the cheap seats to whoever will listen will only accelerate that. It will happen. It's wrong to think all Tories are evil cunts. It simply isn't the case even if you don't agree with their (the moderates) policies.

If they don't leave, clinging onto the carcass of the Tory party in some sort of deluded belief in that it will give them validity, the new leader needs to either fuck them out or put them back in the cage.  The party needs to come back in some form as we all need an opposition in the house.

It's what labour went through in the 80s until Kinnock screwed himself booting out his loonies. Coming to the centre annoyed a lot of people but it was the only way. And it's the only way the Tories have to come back.

btw I have no idea who a new leader would be, such is the damage that Johnson has done to the party. He completely hollowed out the cabinet and it's possible that the viable talent has left. But the party has to stop playing to the right wing gallery which is now visibly corrupt and in the pocket of industry lobbyists.

The loony left was a thing. We have the loony right now (or rancid right if you want alliteration).

Sunak is a an empty vessel. He has nothing.

So he is riding this Rwanda madness until the end. Right over the cliff edge.

The local elections next week might see the end of him but it won't make any difference now. Anyone stupid enough to step up now would only make things worse.  It's fascinating to see - and I was around to watch the John Major "back to basics" implosion.

Fact remains - power corrupts. The 7 year rule still applies.

monkey wrote:

Rev wrote:

Pie in the sky nonsense, but what do we have in place to ensure that he holds a general election? They've shown quite clearly that they'll ignore laws to suit their agenda. Currently it looks like this General Election is likely to wipe on the Tory party and potentially prevent it from gaining power for years to come. Is there anything stopping Sunak claiming some kind of national emergency to prevent the election being run?

He would need to explicitly change the law in parliament. Parliament dissolves automatically in December (I think). Then a General Election happens automatically. It's not really something he can ignore. Parliament wouldn't be there, there would no MPs and they aren't even allowed in the building after dissolution. So, whatever his pretext (e.g. national emergency) he needs to go into Parliament and get a majority of MPs to vote to extend it.

This.
The Gov can call an election early but parliament will dissolve 5 years to the day after it formed post the last GE.
If he squatted in NO10 he wouldn't be able to do much. Laws require Royal assent so Chuck would have to be in on it too, he's a useless old fuck but I think even this would be too much for the Royals to swallow, not least because a dictator is a threat to their own power, dictators tend to remove royal families.

They could change the law beyond 5 years but that's not happening, not this close to a GE, would be seen the same as squatting.

Taken to the extreme nothing stops this happening in any country of course, laws of are written by men and can be broken. Takes someone with a bit more about them than Rishi though. Trump, maybe.

Bear in mind it's also now the party that lied to QE2.

The legacy of this downward spiral of an administration since Cameron is rancid. There won't be a single iota of societal advancement from it, apart from warnings for future generations about demagogues in power and maybe consideration of a written constitution to make sure this can't happen again.

An end to career politicians, conflicts of interest - declared or otherwise and the revolving door that facilitates rapid movement between industry , high public service and government. And the House of Lords needs reformed, at the very least to rid it of the pollutant that has been injected into it since Johnson.

No one is interested in leaving the ECHR. Its fringe of the fringe of the fringe stuff.

Cross posted from the Palestine and Middle East Thread 
So it turns out that the Zionist Gideon Falter who appeared on mainstream news as the man who tried to cross the Palestinian marches in London and then released edited footage of the incident is the same person who is heavily involved in the CAA. The Campaign Against Antisemitism. The same Gideon Falter who made the complaint to Keir Starmer about Jeremy Corbyn and got him suspended from Labour.

Rev wrote:

Cross posted from the Palestine and Middle East Thread  So it turns out that the Zionist Gideon Falter who appeared on mainstream news as the man who tried to cross the Palestinian marches in London and then released edited footage of the incident is the same person who is heavily involved in the CAA. The Campaign Against Antisemitism. The same Gideon Falter who made the complaint to Keir Starmer about Jeremy Corbyn and got him suspended from Labour.

This is hilarious, particularly when Gideon realises he has lost the argument and has been completely exposed at the 8 minute mark. Absolute twat he is.

Well, quite. When you’re playing from the Tommy Robinson/ Stephen Yaxley-Lennon playbook, and you look around you and all the people “on your side” are fucking nightmare pieces of shit, maybe you should have a moment of introspection and reconsider some things. Then again, to get there in the first place you gotta be beyond that, so I doubt he will change.

In Parliament today, the Tories have tabled more than 200 amendments to the Renters Reform Bill, essentially gutting it and rendering it pointless. I wonder why?

davyK wrote:

Hopefully a taste of the upcoming GE - many remember the 97 election and the Portillo exit but the real treat of the night was the defeat of the odious David Mellor. Times:  15'37'' result announcement (watch Mellor's face) 26'15'' Mellor's defeat acceptance speech and slagging off James Goldsmith (the referendum party !!)

Why are so many of these Brexit cunts foreign born and/or live/work abroad? Goldsmith was a French born, at the time French MEP who lived in Mexico after building up an American business empire and died at a property he had in Spain.

Diluted Dante wrote:

Why are so many of these Brexit cunts foreign born and/or live/work abroad? Goldsmith was a French born, at the time French MEP who lived in Mexico after building up an American business empire and died at a property he had in Spain.

Clearly EU regs have always held gouging cunts at bay. Welcome to Brexit. The oul cunt died years ago so at least he didn't see it.

Hope the election comes before they get a chance to drop it.

Its a popular policy with all voters. No one likes the train operating companies.

Given that we missed the window of cheap money thanks to 14 years of Tory cunts, not acquiring the rolling stock is the right move as well.