Things that would be good:

Spotify not least for custom playlists while playing / on the go.
Netflix obviously.
Local MP off a single cart.
Downloady games at sensible prices
GC VC

I'd imagine you'll get some form of single cart local mp, albeit a barebones mode of sorts.  I'd be surprised if they didn't add GC to the Virtual Console (probably at a rate of 4 titles per year and £18+ each).

Yossarian wrote:

Because they've fucked up their pricing and general strategy and could do with regaining some good will.

Yes and no. My nephew is very keen on one (he's 9, had a wii, has a ps4) and by all accounts they've sold quite a few as pre-order. I imagine there is little value making the changes now, but come the summer we get the bundles etc. and maybe even a re-evaluation of other issues. At the moment they are probably in an ok position.

WorKid wrote:

Looks like they will sell through anyway so no issues with pricing.

Is this because they've decided to only build 500 units per territory?

Also US price seems to be reasonable so at least partly sterling tanking is to blame.

How do the prices in the States compare to PS4/Xbone?

WorKid wrote:

Local MP off a single cart.

The only proper way to do that is to allow the game to be downloaded onto the guest console, with the cartridged host authenticating it for play. But they'd have to be absolutely sure that this authentication only worked for ad-hoc multiplayer modes. It's feasible, though, with some form of in-play key-exchange system for randomised security.

Otherwise, any lag at all for the guest would be too much.

Why would this have to be different from the bluetooth type system they've had for ages?

Did you know that the neon Joy-Cons included in the console bundle are the opposite colours to the ones available as a set? You do now.

Didn't peg the '+/-' motif either.

And the allusion to the Yin Yang in the Switch logo.
Plenty of symbolism here...

More than average for a console design.

danclarke wrote:

Did you know that the neon Joy-Cons included in the console bundle are the opposite colours to the ones available as a set? You do now.

Man I knew this was a thing but I thought it was Japan only for the swap and or version of the extra was matching the original combo.

You can also by colour matching wrist doodads but I guess they only match the original combo.

Liveinadive wrote:

The red and blue are also the some tones as used on the headphones bundled original gameboy. Not seen that spotted by anywhere yet.

That is a quality Ninty fanboy spot right there. Well done sir.

Dan and LivDiv on the dank shit in here.

mistercrayon wrote:

And also act as the computer that runs the games?! I mean. Don't you think it's interesting that it's a system that broadens playing fun shit off the tv screen? Also don't forget that you can pick the thing up and play a game virtually Anywhere. That's the main thing.

it's an interesting concept.
I'm not trying to upset those that are interested in it or the switch, I'm not saying it won't be fun for those that do get it, nor am I ruling out the possibility that if I get to play it I may love it.
It's just not working for me from what I've seen, it doesn't make me want to buy a switch.  I'm not seeing what it's 'selling' in the console that couldn't just be done on the wii - or even a completely standalone 'electronic game' - or anything to justify a full price release.  And if lots of others think that way then it may put them off buying it too.
As a Nintendo fan, i want their console to do well, but I find it very disappointing that this is the only new game designed just for this console at launch.

Sorry to those who think I'm just being negative and trying to ruin their enjoyment of this.  i don't want to keep repeating negative comments so I'll try to stop with this one now.  i know 1,2 switch is just 1 game that could easily be ignored...just Nintendo managed to take the switch from something i was very interested in, and make me lose nearly all interest, and 1,2 switch kind of represents all the elements where they went wrong for me.

Well at least they're trying something different, and with Pro and Scorpion doing nothing interesting it's nice to have Nintendo. I'll not be picking up 12 but it does show how the functionality could be used in more traditional games. The lockpicking in Skyrim already used rumble but could vastly improved with more subtlety. I'm not aware Zelda uses it much but I can see how it could be used to make paragliding, walking through water and the like seem slightly more immersive. Can you make running through grass different to walking on stone? Would it just be annoying? We'll see.

The Lab on the Vive does this beautifully.

Just wanna clarify something. If I'm playing Zelda on TV and missus wants to watch bake off, I can literally undock the thing and carry on with the tablet with no interruptions? Like I won't have to restart the machine or game or anything? Does it even pause the game?

I really, really like that idea if it's done seamlessly.

I want this thing but for under £300 with Zelda please.

I reckon it will be £270 by Christmas.