It's all about the agenda of the strong man. If it's a right wing, big business friendly agenda, bring it on! If it's a lefty socialist Bernie agenda, can't trust it. Government becomes evil.

The right likes to advocate a minimalist government except for when law, policy and governance are in their favour. The safeguarding of the all important 'perks' (read: status quo) which are invisible to the blue collars who don't really care either way because they don't understand all the political and legal mumbo jumbo. 'I trust him, he looks to be a strong and competent leader who's on our side! Besides, he's rich so he must know what he's doing!'

And so, come election time history repeats.
Ad infinitum.

I often wonder about Baron at times like these.  Him and mum, sat there hugging in front of the tv, watching and listening, and her with her watering eyes wondering if a green card was actually worth all this and Baron just silently staring back, eyes wide, pleading for her to just run.

I read Sopel's piece on the Trump conference yesterday and all I could think was "he is loving this, absolutely loving it". He paints this picture of Trump as this aberration, freak show of a president "my god look at him" and all the while revels in the clicks and eye balls, never acknowledging his part in playing trump's game, fucking media sycophant wankers

Cont needs shut.

poprock wrote:

We actually live in this fucking shitshow of a society. Surrounded by people who willingly vote for Trump and Johnson, believing they’re great leaders. It beggars belief.

Yeah. Sad ain't it.

Just curious how people here feel about Sanders endorsing Biden, especially those who feel Biden is just as bad as trump, just different packaging. 

Sanders didn't have to endorse him, I kinda fell he wouldnt have unless he genuinely felt that Biden was a better choice. It's not like he is likely to be able to get another run in 4 years time so he doesnt have to play nice.

I know you all probably know that already, I'm just trying to politely channel some rage.

hmmmm wrote:

Trump's ego really is something else, it's a shame it can only be sated by doing selfish and immoral things. "it was reported that $1,200 relief cheques for as many as 70 million people could be delayed for several days because Trump wanted his name printed on them" That's his pathetic legacy, he's a contemptible person.

Truly the egotist-in-chief.

Watching that press briefing when he played that video - looking from them to it like the man-child that he is.  As if an edited video sequence is evidence.

Why do they even bother to turn up and listen to this tosser? He isn't evil - I don't think he has the mental capacity for evil any more than a toddler throwing a strop does. He's just a prat.

It should be broadcast live - and instead of journalists attending just give a few hundred dollars to unemployed randomers to sit there and listen to him.

It should be shown on a loop all day long on every US television channel to remind everybody what a buffoon they (or their neighbours) fucking voted for.

Of course he’ll try. Putin’s done it already and he think’s Putin’s great. He’s met Orban before as well, hasn’t he? Bet he liked the way Orban changed Hungary’s laws to let himself rule by decree …

That's what we've been saying for over 3 years.

Oh, America.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2020/04/14/why-are-rich-americans-getting-17-million-stimulus-checks

Part of the emergency aid package passed into law in the US removes a cap on a certain type of tax avoidance. The wealthier you are, the more useful to you this will be. And it’s backdated to 2018. Forbes have worked out that the mean windfall payment to the wealthiest 43,000 Americans will be $1.7m each.

Congressman Lloyd Doggett wrote:

For those earning $1 million annually, a tax break buried in the recent coronavirus relief legislation is so generous that its total cost is more than total new funding for all hospitals in America and more than the total provided to all state and local governments.

Drain the swamp though, eh?

davyK wrote:

Does anyone here consider it possible that a 2nd term Trump would try and make a certain constitutional change?

I ask because I do.  He is monstrous - like that giant child in Spirited Away.

I made the point a while back. Look at how he acts. First, it's all about him so if he wins 4 more years this year, I reckon he will seriously consider pushing for it. And the republican party have shown they really give 2 fucks about the constitution as long as they stay in power.

Second, if he loses... He will definitely declare every conspiracy from voter fraud to media lies to outside interference. He won't go quietly. And again, the problem is the republican party have shown that they will not only tolerate but actively back and endorse his bullshit.

All those nuts buying ammo will happily buy into a narrative that the deepstate or the media is trying to oust 'their' guy. And I think they might just take up arms.

They did it for that guy who was using government land to feed his cattle and not pay anything. You think they won't for trump?