Reluctantly swallowed my fair share - still watching TWD out of misplaced loyalty and morbid curiosity.

bad_hair_day wrote:

Some people also spit the shit out and others will say how much they enjoyed the sweetcorn.

Done a fair amount of shit spitting myself in the past, Ghost Recon Breakpoint springs to mind as a recent example. But I can't work out what the sweetcorn is supposed to be here.

People are saying it's good to chill and check out the scenery, which I'm definitely a big fan of, but I do that in other games for a break from the gameplay, not as a substitute for it. Normally the end of a session of Red Dead I'll go for a walk and watch the wildlife, or climb a mountain in Horizon and fuck about with the photo mode, so I get the relaxing, just existing in this world vibe.

But the world doesn't even appeal to me either. I watched a five minute video of a player crossing the entire map on as I thought I'd get to see the different landscapes on offer. One area looks green, another a bit brown. That's it. And it's all so dead. The odd group of numpties engaging you in some clumsy combat. A few garish neon signs from other players. The floating spooks you have to slowly shuffle past. For me, there's nothing to explore the world for. Even if this world was on a par with the likes of BotW, RDR2, Horizon, NMS and the rest of the open world explore 'em ups for sight seeing, it can't come close to matching the stuff you can get up to in those games

So that just leaves the story, cutscenes, characters etc. and it's Kojima as fuck innit? Unfortunately in my case, that's far more of a con than a pro. Nonsense story, ridiculous characters and cringe worthy cutscenes I can do without.

I can't understand the glowing reviews, or what happens after 10 or so hours when people seem to have an epiphany and start to enjoy the taste of the shit in their mouths.

It's in tags now, sorry if anyone caught it.

Paul the sparky wrote:

bad_hair_day wrote:

Some people also spit the shit out and others will say how much they enjoyed the sweetcorn.

Done a fair amount of shit spitting myself in the past, Ghost Recon Breakpoint springs to mind as a recent example. But I can't work out what the sweetcorn is supposed to be here.

People are saying it's good to chill and check out the scenery, which I'm definitely a big fan of, but I do that in other games for a break from the gameplay, not as a substitute for it. Normally the end of a session of Red Dead I'll go for a walk and watch the wildlife, or climb a mountain in Horizon and fuck about with the photo mode, so I get the relaxing, just existing in this world vibe.

But the world doesn't even appeal to me either. I watched a five minute video of a player crossing the entire map on

Spoiler:

zip lines

as I thought I'd get to see the different landscapes on offer. One area looks green, another a bit brown. That's it. And it's all so dead. The odd group of numpties engaging you in some clumsy combat. A few garish neon signs from other players. The floating spooks you have to slowly shuffle past. For me, there's nothing to explore the world for. Even if this world was on a par with the likes of BotW, RDR2, Horizon, NMS and the rest of the open world explore 'em ups for sight seeing, it can't come close to matching the stuff you can get up to in those games

So that just leaves the story, cutscenes, characters etc. and it's Kojima as fuck innit? Unfortunately in my case, that's far more of a con than a pro. Nonsense story, ridiculous characters and cringe worthy cutscenes I can do without.

I can't understand the glowing reviews, or what happens after 10 or so hours when people seem to have an epiphany and start to enjoy the taste of the shit in their mouths.

So yeh not sure what yous mean by shit spitting but it sounds disgusting and a bit offensive if aimed at anyone directly.

Ghost recon breakpoint is a shit broken game that I'm still getting testing emails for.
The two games don't compare in any experience and the only thing they share is a semi open world.
(In ghost recon if you go exploring you'll find rank 30 drones etc that just one shot you stopping the exploration there and then.
Death stranding does it differently but I'm not gonna say how as spoilers!)

You say you can't just enjoy the scenery and Fuck about but for the past two days that's all iv done in the game really.
Spoilers safe for people with no interest but may spoil items or locations for others not at the same point as me.

That's one little thing I have loads like for example,
You said it's all green and brown, well maybe it was in a straight line down the middle but this game goes from most colourful thing ever to muted greys and astonishing weather etc in all areas.
The area Iv spent loads of time on recently in the spoilers above is really white and you get a real sense of how cold and windy and lonely it is.

The game has made me feel slightly isolated in places and separate from other people and with the theme of connection it's certainly working it's wonders.
Shame the forum isn't as clever and just leaves the few of us enjoying it isolated to ourselves.

I know it's not for everybody but it in no way deserves the negativity in this thread.

I'm ok with any kind of criticism of a piece of media really. It's just when it turns from the game to the people playing it, the disbelief that anyone might be having a good experience with it and the suggestion that they must be; deluded / a shill / a fanboy / or just somehow speaking in bad faith. All that shit really pisses me off. That and the whole 'not even a real game' thing that still goes on is pretty pathetic.

But as long as you're ripping into the actual game and not the people then I think that's fine.

I picked up the shitty stick Tempy had thrown down, quite possibly by the wrong end. Toilet humour innit.

People thought Sea of Thieves had simple, repetitive tasks and didn't get it was the traversel which was a draw for many.

For some reason this game appeals to me, I don't know why. But it doesn't seem to be a thing you can pick up for 20 minutes every now and again either, so I'll probably give it a miss for the moment.

Oh I didn't pay for it. Console share with my cousin innit.

Dunkey weighs in

mrsmr2 wrote:

It'll be interesting to see what people think in a year's time when the shiny cutscene/weird ass story no longer has an impact. And then see what people think about the gameplay if they are still playing. Or if it's consigned to the played it once/great experience/fond memories/never playing it again bin.

Gamplay seems a bit like RDR but without the awful shooting, which suits me fine.

LivDiv wrote:

and some. I would say it was quite spoilery so watch out if you want to go in cold.

I watched the first few minutes and as much as I like Dunkey in general, some of the yucks he's going for seem to involve playing the game counter to intended, like trying to climb impossible inclines or ride a bike over rocks. Both end up being impossible... which seems to be the point? I didn't want any spoilers so tapped out there, but that seems like complaining about not being able to climb in Mario.

Obviously the game might still be shit, but those points seem like real low hanging fruit. In a game about planning your route and taking it, it seems a bit silly to complain that you've chosen a bike to try and go over rough terrain?

LivDiv wrote:

Bit of both I would say. He has milked it for sure but I have seen streams of people struggling with the vehicles across fairly flat but rocky terrain.

People are like this though, they seem to have been spoilt by easily traversable games for the last few decades or something. Like with Kingdom Come there's people that complain about the thickets of impenetrable bushes that sometimes get in your way, and there's mods to allow you to ghost walk through them. It's as if they've never taken a country walk, impenetrable thickets are a common feature of nature..

I saw that Dunkey vid last night and although he clearly doesn't like it he's definitely going out if his way to show it in the worst possible light. That's his thing, fair enough, but it's hardly a fair review.

I detect a tiiiiiiiiiny bit of tongue in cheek in his fury, but aye, it's certainly a Take from dunkey. World keeps turning.