Yeah I would definitely recommend reading the emails and data as soon as you get them so they don't pile up, they do flesh out more of the story and world. You still need to suspend disbelief quite a bit, and I think it helps to consider much of it as being allegorical.

I really liked helping others in the game, and getting tech, info, and other help back. The more you put into it the more you get back.

Dark Soldier wrote:

Absolutely sadists in here.

Its a walking sim where you can fall over sometimes. That's about it.

Just like real life according to SG

Dark Soldier wrote:

Absolutely sadists in here.

Its a walking sim where you can fall over sometimes. That's about it.

But that’s a good thing! Why do you fall over in this game? Because you rush, don’t think about things and take things for granted. It’s kind of meditative and calm in a game which, for once, isn’t really about shooting.

It flexes a different muscle.

I'd say play all those other games (except U4) and forget that Death Stranding exists and move on.

I like walking simulators. I like this. It has a sense of place and loneliness like no other game.

Dinostar77 wrote:

So i am trying to play/complete the "must play" games on my ps4 before hopefully getting a PS5 at Xmas.

DS/Chalice dont like this, others do so it sounds like marmite. Is it really a walking simulator delivering stuff?

Ive still to buy/play LoU2, Nioh2, Uncharted 4, Ghosts of Tsushima, RE3, HZD, Nier Automata. LoU2 and Nioh2 are definates, the rest are if i have time, inclination and money. Im not sure where this sits. I would stick to the main missions for lack of gaming time to get through the story.

I’d wait and play this and TLoU2 on PS5.

b0r1s wrote:

Dinostar77 wrote:

So i am trying to play/complete the "must play" games on my ps4 before hopefully getting a PS5 at Xmas.

DS/Chalice dont like this, others do so it sounds like marmite. Is it really a walking simulator delivering stuff?

Ive still to buy/play LoU2, Nioh2, Uncharted 4, Ghosts of Tsushima, RE3, HZD, Nier Automata. LoU2 and Nioh2 are definates, the rest are if i have time, inclination and money. Im not sure where this sits. I would stick to the main missions for lack of gaming time to get through the story.

I’d wait and play this and TLoU2 on PS5.

Never thought of that. Guess they get upscaled or something. That would shorten my ps4 list somewhat. I may do that. Nice idea.

I still don't get this idea that there's so much to do in relation to this game. I poodled about for hours and plonked the occasional ladder down. That's about it. Maybe I crouch walked for an eternity through a rainy section with some ghosts. Falling over was about the extent of the action over the course of a session with it. Barely enough to raise a pulse. Even the physicality of Reedus with a Jenga tower on his back is ridiculous. It doesn't feel right, it doesn't look right, and when he starts tripping up and losing balance it's borderline hilarious. I think his movement over arduous terrain is just straight up bad, and has been done far better in other open world games. I just can't understand how people find the fun in such a mundane pursuit as walking in a videogame.

I remember one evening I set a waypoint to somewhere over relatively level ground and just held the left stick up and turned to talk to the missus whilst she was cooking dinner - for whole minutes. I then looked back and saw Reedus still steadily, agonisingly plodding along towards a distant goal and thinking 'fuck this' and shut it down.

@Dino I would play all those other games before playing this but hey you might love it.

stonechalice wrote:

I still don't get this idea that there's so much to do in relation to this game. I poodled about for hours and plonked the occasional ladder down. That's about it. Maybe I crouch walked for an eternity through a rainy section with some ghosts. Falling over was about the extent of the action over the course of a session with it. Barely enough to raise a pulse. Even the physicality of Reedus with a Jenga tower on his back is ridiculous. It doesn't feel right, it doesn't look right, and when he starts tripping up and losing balance it's borderline hilarious. I think his movement over arduous terrain is just straight up bad, and has been done far better in other open world games. I just can't understand how people find the fun in such a mundane pursuit as walking in a videogame.

Which games have better movement? Keeping in mind that it's supposed to be arduous and difficult in DS, Sam isn't a superhuman with endless stamina and strength so it needs to be a struggle to represent that.

This is a game that is less about things happening to you that you need to react against, like in most other games, and more about you making a plan and executing it in a world full of friction and risk in order to conquer it.

I would say pretty much any decent, recent open world game does movement better than this game but I do take your point about it being an ordeal. BotW and Assassin's Creed spring to mind. Both those games have distinct animations for walking up steep hills and then switching to a climb. In this game that same mechanic is clunky. An example of badly designed movement mechanics are when Sam drops from a ledge. It looks terrible. It's jarring, and it doesn't portray the trauma of such a fall in a good way. The animation for him losing balance is pretty laughable after the umpteenth time too. Repetition really sets in quick. Also, the canned animation of him doing a little side to side shuffle that triggers here and there is just lazy - Sam's connection to the terrain when things get lumpy is just off to me.

I do quite a bit of hiking yeah I love it. I did all 187 miles of the Ridgeway national trail in a week last year. I'm just not sure it transfers to fun in a videogame.

I didn’t like it. But...I spent like 50 hours finishing it. What does that mean? WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!

Armitage_Shankburn wrote:

Dark Soldier wrote:

Absolutely sadists in here. Its a walking sim where you can fall over sometimes. That's about it.

Just like real life according to SG

True.

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