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  • He has an issue with Comic Relief or aid charities in general or how they go about things. That's fine, some of those concerns are valid.

    His first action is to snipe someone who holds no power there and, given their track record is likely trying to do good.

    When contacted by CR before all this he didn't respond with his views on what they should be doing, perhaps drop some names of people they could use. He blanked them.

    With his influence as an MP he chose to do fuck all until Dooley turned up.

    Now hes rowing backwards, elaborating on opinions an linking to fucking articles.

    But he is Labour and the correct side of it so swallow the excuses and ignore the hamfisted Labour brand approach and blame it all on the big bad media.
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  • What are you on about? He had 2 meetings with Comic Relief, prior to all of this kickoff.

    Comic Relief begrudgingly acknowledged this after accusing him of not responding to them. He's not blanked anyone, they've refused to take on board the criticism he's had of them and continually asked him to do the exact same thing he's criticising them for.

    You really have got the wrong end of the stick here.
  • What are we talking about again. Who's he?
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  • I will concede I hadn't seen that CR had back peddled on his meetings.

    I still think he has handled it poorly. If he thinks CR are misrepresenting the cause he should go through the proper channels.
    CR arent going to raise much money ditching celebs and showing middle class Africa are they?
    Implying Dooley is a white saviour tars all the other white celebs and white people sat at home donating with the same brush.
    It's only ever going to result in an own goal.

    You dont undo decades of people being told CR is a good thing by jumping on one person or piece.

    I see Trisha (yes rice an' pea Trisha) is backing him up as well. Trisha of course would never monetise the suffering of others to build a career.
  • I'm not sure I fully get this.

    Is it misrepresentation to get aid that's the problem?

    Is it the fact is mostly white people giving the aid?

    Is it that comic relief are bad at dispensing the aid?

    Or none of the above?
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  • Lammy's issue seems to be that it is non-Africans and that CR gives a false impression of the realities of Africa today.
    Which promotes the concept of white saviours.
  • White saviours fucking hell
  • Red Nose Day is super archaic and relies on such wasteful means of fundraising that it seems borderline gross to me. Add to that fact that principally comic relief seems more a vehicle for celebrities promoting themselves through whacky shit while money raising feels totally incidental.
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    I do think there’s an issue around the representation of Africa. It’s not that it’s the fault of Comic Relief, but those Comic Relief films are the main exposure that most people here in the U.K. have with life in Africa, so they’re taken as representative of what life is like on the whole continent.
  • Red Nose Day is super archaic and relies on such wasteful means of fundraising that it seems borderline gross to me. Add to that fact that principally comic relief seems more a vehicle for celebrities promoting themselves through whacky shit while money raising feels totally incidental.

    I get your point to an extent but is the alternative not to do it ? I'd accept any complaint about the dishing out of money raised as to whether it all gets to where its needed but the complaint about the celeb aspect is kinda silly - that's what it uses to get people attention so they donate. It feels like criticism for the sake of it.

    Not sure how it is wasteful means of fundraising - 33 million on average a year sounds pretty decent to me.

    How they are presenting Africa is a different matter but I haven't watched any of it for years so is this a case of CR using the term Africa as a catch-all term or is it the viewer not listening to the names of countries and making the assumption?

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    The issue is that there’s very little coverage of Africa as a continent in this country and pretty much the only version of contemporary African life that the vast majority of people in the U.K. are likely to see in any given year are those segments on Comic Relief which focus on the very poorest parts of Africa leading to a skewed perception of the whole continent.
  • If that's what makes people dig around in their sofas for whatever they can spare isn't that mission accomplished for an organisation where, presumably, more money does more good?
  • Yossarian wrote:
    The issue is that there’s very little coverage of Africa as a continent in this country and pretty much the only version of contemporary African life that the vast majority of people in the U.K. are likely to see in any given year are those segments on Comic Relief which focus on the very poorest parts of Africa leading to a skewed perception of the whole continent.

    So it's not a case of comic relief misrepresenting things, more that other outlets aren't covering other more positive aspects of Africa.

    If that's the case , than isn't any charity going to be guilty of only showing poor people

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  • Oh no white kids are getting stabbed too. Quick, double the press coverage.
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  • Oh no white kids are getting stabbed too. Quick, double the institutional racism.

    Ftfy
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  • Hold on a sec, this was a girl, killed in a random attack.
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  • About a third are random attacks. Also, half the papers are going with a pic of the public schoolboy.
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  • The Iraqi kid?
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  • Dunno but he isn't black.
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  • In Australia, we prefer to not equivocate on our racism, we just dive in so you're sure.

    https://twitter.com/ABCthedrum/status/1102474782006632448?s=19

    https://twitter.com/iFECCA/status/1102169173608677377?s=19

    The Majak daw stuff is made worse by the fact he's a couple of months removed from a suicide attempt.

    Ffs.
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  • I see the commons debate on knife crime was as empty as it was for climate change.

    This country is fucked.
  • Nothing to do with austerity of course. It's just magic voodoo shit.
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  • If anything FEWER police is the solution.
  • The Tory's ran a successful More Poverty campaign off the back of what the bankers did.

    That actually happened in the real world.
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  • It's ok. The poor are just stabbing each other.
  • it's win win really. less poor people to feed, more organ donors for the rich
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    LivDiv wrote:
    If anything FEWER police is the solution.

    Though it doesn't belong in this thread (it's a wider discussion), I disagree with that.
    I live on an estate where things have definitely quieted down since the police took more of an interest.

    But I guess how it's done is part of the key.

    (edit - present tense)
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  • Police in London should stop all and any ancillary functions such as, but not limited to: escorting capita staff to enforcing TV licensing shite, helping those private litter fine folks, etc etc. And instead walk a beat in crime ridden areas and get to know the locals.
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  • Police in London should stop all and any ancillary functions such as, but not limited to: escorting capita staff to enforcing TV licensing shite, helping those private litter fine folks, etc etc. And instead walk a beat in crime ridden areas and get to know the locals.

    So simple and yet bang on.

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  • Yup. For a good while now I have said it's crucial to gte Police out of cars and into communities.
    They need to be familiar faces, known by schools, churches, community groups and most of all kids.

    The attitude now is "fuck the police", need to move towards "fuck the police but PC (insert name) is alright"

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