Armitage_Shankburn wrote:

Personally do not think there will be a season 4.

I dunno Gonz. We've been saying that since Season 1, and they're still churning it out. Every season the writing just gets worse and worse.

Who cares how it ended? It was so god-damned pretty.

Shit writing, silly plot, I don’t care. I just want to spend more time in the world they built. I think it was some of the best production design I’ve seen in ages.

I’m first up against the wall in your glorious revolution, comrade.

Funny how the fascists always have lovely uniforms and flags too.

Finished the second series.

Overall I think it had some great episodes but I’m not really feeling super hyped either.

I think they introduced too many concepts to make too many people happy really. The idea there’s a robot heaven distinct from the human storage In the forge feels like it meant to avert the implicit conflict between Dolores plan and Ake from Ghost Nations plan - there was no way those two concepts of the other world should exist.

Apparantly if you watch the series again you can see that Charlotte Hale is sometimes played as Dolores playing Charlotte Hale. I think this is too subtle but fair play for doing it.

I guess I was wrong that William was a robot. It turns out that the game that Ford made was literally him saying to William “there’s a game for you” and then letting William spin out of control just based on that crumb of misinformation.

I know William is supposedly an irredeemable baddie but from what I can tell he was good to his wife and all of his horribleness was confined to the fantasy land. It seems a little bit rude to litigate him on that. Fair play to his wife’s assessment that he ruined the dad and brother in law though (although on appearance it looked like he was trying to save the dad).

Dolores is a knob and I don’t really know why she changed her mind about robot heaven. I do like her awareness that she needs a rival mind to help her plan though (in a steel sharpens steel way - is that something they say in Shogunworld?)

Also the last episode having fight club rips (why are these anarchists calling me sir, the ending of exploding buildings)

As far as I can tell:

Half way through series 2 - Dolores vengeance on humanity robots take over

After teddy kills himself - Dolores softens on this maybe?

Beginning of series 3 - robots are going to take over (we are the gods)

End of series 3 - Dolores wants humanity to have a choice (note the entire premise of her getting to the end point is that in the space where humans can do anything - westworld - it’s possible to replicate a human with barely any code implying humans don’t really have a choice)

Also end of series 3 - humans wipe themselves out (as predicted by the computer) and robots (thanks to charlottes factory and copying man in black) take over.

I can’t help but feel that Dolores plan of Robots taking over happens and everyone is told about this and they still do this But the rub is that the final choices of Dolores merely artificially softens her exit. It’s like they massage her character a bit to make the exit of the hero nice but without really doing any extra effort to give it story implications.