Beano has a PS4?

JRPC wrote:

Also, Xbox lol.

Awaits Scorpio version.

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D2 almost certainly.

Jack frags impressions of console and pc versions.

I'll be on shortly

When is the Betta out?

I must say I'm not liking how weak and uninspired the guns look, Everything seems to take ages to die in both pve and pvp.

The new Warlock class looks like a shit hammer titan too, mixed in with a few of the crappier Sunsinger perks that nobody used

Day 1 etc etc

Time to kill has been increased, they confirmed that at the event. Re Moe.

No probs.

Had a few iffy matches and went to sleep.

I think maybe I'm done with D1 now.

I can't be arsed to do a LP, but have looked into this a fair bit.

Negatives: no dedicated servers and increase for some activities in MP to 8 players total instead of 6, 30fps on console; reports that titan skating was absent is a little worrying, hopefully have not designed movement mechanics out of the game. Don't see how raid matchmaking can work.

Postivies: 4v4 mp standard means all population will be "trained" in mp activities that are higher end. Lots here only really played 6v6 for banner. Maps should be easier to design well. Slower TTK will mean higher skill gap and opportunities for adjustments in game. MP loot system seems more generous and in game off /matchmaking will help players meet and get together hopefully, if rando ppl accept party invites esp.

SP will be shite but polished as per TTK (awkward acronym in destiny, that). I expect the cabal raid will kick arsen given they have been working on it in some form or another since D1 launch.

I haven't played any games in 2 months, this one might cause me to dip in, but the kind of all in shiz I experienced with D1, no.

legaldinho wrote:

I can't be arsed to do a LP, but have looked into this a fair bit. Negatives: no dedicated servers and increase for some activities in MP to 8 players total instead of 6, 30fps on console; reports that titan skating was absent is a little worrying, hopefully have not designed movement mechanics out of the game. Don't see how raid matchmaking can work. Postivies: 4v4 mp standard means all population will be "trained" in mp activities that are higher end. Lots here only really played 6v6 for banner. Maps should be easier to design well. Slower TTK will mean higher skill gap and opportunities for adjustments in game. MP loot system seems more generous and in game off /matchmaking will help players meet and get together hopefully, if rando ppl accept party invites esp. SP will be shite but polished as per TTK (awkward acronym in destiny, that). I expect the cabal raid will kick arsen given they have been working on it in some form or another since D1 launch. I haven't played any games in 2 months, this one might cause me to dip in, but the kind of all in shiz I experienced with D1, no.

Not sure I'd agree with that like. A slower ttk just means more team shooting and same-laning, With less opportunity for individual skill. Thorn vs Thorn is the highest skill-gap the game has ever had, if you can die almost immediately then aim and positioning become more important and you're punished more for mistakes.

I think if slower ttk = higher skill gap they wouldn't have gone for it, as the game seems to be moving in a more casual friendly direction.

MoesTavern wrote:

legaldinho wrote:

I can't be arsed to do a LP, but have looked into this a fair bit. Negatives: no dedicated servers and increase for some activities in MP to 8 players total instead of 6, 30fps on console; reports that titan skating was absent is a little worrying, hopefully have not designed movement mechanics out of the game. Don't see how raid matchmaking can work. Postivies: 4v4 mp standard means all population will be "trained" in mp activities that are higher end. Lots here only really played 6v6 for banner. Maps should be easier to design well. Slower TTK will mean higher skill gap and opportunities for adjustments in game. MP loot system seems more generous and in game off /matchmaking will help players meet and get together hopefully, if rando ppl accept party invites esp. SP will be shite but polished as per TTK (awkward acronym in destiny, that). I expect the cabal raid will kick arsen given they have been working on it in some form or another since D1 launch. I haven't played any games in 2 months, this one might cause me to dip in, but the kind of all in shiz I experienced with D1, no.

Not sure I'd agree with that like. A slower ttk just means more team shooting and same-laning, With less opportunity for individual skill. Thorn vs Thorn is the highest skill-gap the game has ever had, if you can die almost immediately then aim and positioning become more important and you're punished more for mistakes.

I think if slower ttk = higher skill gap they wouldn't have gone for it, as the game seems to be moving in a more casual friendly direction.

Try killing nmd in halo 2, having the drop on him didn't necessarily help you. In destiny he dies first if you see him first 9/10. Going by your own reasoning, higher ttk means more opportunity to adjust. The thorn example is a terrible one, defining skill as just aim and positioning excludes movement and jukes. Higher ttk allows for wider pool f skills to come into play. Finally, if team shooting is effective with ttk of 0.9 sec, it is much more effective if the ttk is 0.5.

In my opinion pve and pvp should be completely divorced from one another. I heard somewhere that the hunter dash on the Gunslinger subclass refills your magazine on connection. These are the types of skills I was hoping to see.

They have also explicitly said that one-shot abilities and grenades are gone. All skills are to now compliment the gunplay. So no more shoulder barging, sticky grenades or backstabs. 

Thankfully.

Speedhaak wrote:

In my opinion pve and pvp should be completely divorced from one another. I heard somewhere that the hunter dash on the Gunslinger subclass refills your magazine on connection. These are the types of skills I was hoping to see. They have also explicitly said that one-shot abilities and grenades are gone. All skills are to now compliment the gunplay. So no more shoulder barging, sticky grenades or backstabs.  Thankfully.

Shoulder charge is still in, I think.

Speedhaak wrote:

In my opinion pve and pvp should be completely divorced from one another. I heard somewhere that the hunter dash on the Gunslinger subclass refills your magazine on connection. These are the types of skills I was hoping to see.

They have also explicitly said that one-shot abilities and grenades are gone. All skills are to now compliment the gunplay. So no more shoulder barging, sticky grenades or backstabs. 

Thankfully.

Yeah, dodge refills ammo.

But that's a global class ability, so not just Gunslinger.

Same with titans shield (which also refills ammo when you duck behind) and warlocks blessings/weapons of light.