And you can easily get it hooked up to your TV etc, but unless you've got really good wiring or internet I am not sure I'd advise Steam Link just yet.

Though if I get this new flat I can maybe give a better review of that as its very much dependent on your house, and the lights in my flat currently flicker because of the rain so I can't give a solid review.

Chillblast are good too: https://www.chillblast.com/chillblast-recommended

Building your own is not too tough, also the best resource here is GurtTractor who basically built mine for me, in all but practise

That new AMD stuff is supposed to be really good for price/power, going off what Gurt says.

Seems to be plenty online that pack a punch around the £500 mark.

What about refurbished?

Maybe send GurtTractor a message if you're serious, he knows all the numbers

Otherwise wait for the inevitable "so you want to buy a PC to play Destiny 2" article

SimplyGames.com DESTINY 2 £39.99 with code DESTINY5OFF. Valid till 23rd june.

I don't want to sound all conspiracy nut here, but surely that xbox one X is more than capable of running destiny 2 at 60fps? And 4k? So why isn't it? Does the deal with Sony mean bungie can't make the xbox version look better?

Might be totally wrong obvs but it crossed my mind earlier

I reckon you're right Matty. Bungie's exclusivity deal with Sony mean's they really don't want to make Sony look bad by having the X-B-O-X version running at true 4k and 60fps. Don't bite the hand that feeds you 'n all that.

Given that Bungie didn't allow cross generation play due to the advantage this would give some players, I've no idea why anyone was expecting the Xbox One Ten version to have a performance boost.

Honestly, given the design philosophy, the more shocking thing is that there is a PC version.

The problem with the "most powerful console ever made" is that it's not Xbox 4, so you're going to find things like this.

PC is more of a wild west, but people expect console versions to perform the same. If they aren't going Scorpio only (and they won't, because that would be insane) then you're going to see problems like this.

If Destiny were designed differently, you might see single player in 4k/60, and multiplayer parity, but it isn't so we won't. Frustrating for people who are looking to buy one sure, but not frustrating for people who aren't making the jump.

No. There's no cross play for Destiny 2.

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Biggest disappointment of E3 so far is the D2 XBX performance. Was always going to be that way but still disappointing.

Probably will patch in better performance down the road but it seems to me Scorpio is a 4k machine and 60fps will not be a priority on cross platform games. If so, what's the point of it?

Well I want both. Would prefer 60fps but not gonna get it, hopefully they patch in 4K, but I doubt that too Gonz, what makes you think they will?

Yeah, it looks like 4K is more easily achievable. The console manufacturers are making money from streaming movies at well, 4K has already arrived there. All TV's being 4K seems kind of inevitable, it's not like 3D or VR, it's just something the whole electronics industry is gradually moving towards.

Just seems a small bit laughable at this stage that we still aren't able to get 60fps as standard on our consoles when PCs have been achieving this since well, day 1. I was playing CS at over 100fps back in 2002. And yes I know, graphics and physics and all that but still. The next generational update has to absolutely guarantee 60fps. No ifs, buts or maybes.