You really need deva form for it to work. So yeah tricky. But imagine getting two or three on a boss and you’ll smash it. That penalty on normal energy is a killer.

If you’re having bad card draw look at Hologram. It can be an overlooked card as it only has three block but you can put cards back in your hand after playing them. Great for zero cost cards and for getting that extra block.

I’d also say that if you haven’t unlocked everything some Defect specific relics really make him more powerful.

Beyond that I always try to get as many lightning and frost orbs on the go as possible. Grab capacitor, the card to increase your orb strength (can’t recall what it’s called) and channel as much frost and lightning as possible.

Defect has a fair bit going on.

When you do win, I bet you any money you'll absolutely smash it. Seems to be the way with defect. When you get a deck humming with him, you'll have damage flying everywhere.

Lighting is probably the way to lean if you're unsure, as there's lots of ways to generate it and lots of great cards to use it.

Some general themes you can lean towards that are solid:

Expensive cards, try and nab snecko when it comes at end of act one.

Or, zero cost, especially if you can get multiple claws and all for one (plus a couple of the other cards that let you control cards you're getting. See above from boris, or rebound.)

Worth also remembering that orbs are a 2 step process. So you generate them, then they go off at the end of your turn (passive ability). to be doing big damage and to have them really working fro you, you need to judge what cards are doing what, and decide if you want lots of orb slots, or if you're OK with fewer, but cycling through them quickly. (learning to use dark can be tricky,for instance, as if you're not generating orbs, or you have too many slots, you can have a dark orb there growing, but it never gets used.)

Also have to be careful with power cards. Defect has a lot and they all sound great on paper, but if you end up with too many, you're not actually doing damage or blocking per turn.

Great character.

Thanks all. That's what I've been trying to do in general.
Have as many orbs on the board, both frost and lightnin, as possible. Focus them if I can then turtle the big guys.

I’ve had it work once for me. And really well. But only took it a few times. If you’re gonna take it I’d take high cost cards.

Snecko did for me in an earlier run. Had some expensive cards so seemed a solid gamble, but when I needed some defence near the top of the second bit it screwed me over.

Snecko is bae relic, love it

I shall go for it next time it's available.

FranticPea wrote:

Finally did the beat the game with a 5 card deck achievement, and defeated the Transient same run. Very satisfying.

Nice.

Smug face.

I can't get the no rare or uncommon achievement and I nearly always get killed on the final boss. I thought it might be best with IC and then I tried Silent, and it's a little better, but still no cigar.

I just fucked a watcher run on first boss where I already had deva form and Icecream.

What a Muppet. Went agro at wrong time.

Ffs.

Easily done with Watcher tbf Face. I can’t seem to get past Watcher Asc4 on iOS. I keep fucking it every run. And I can’t explain why except being crap. I’m on Asc10 on PC.

Does anyone have an opinion on what char might be best for the no relic achievement?

SpaceGazelle wrote:

Does anyone have an opinion on what char might be best for the no relic achievement?

Watcher