My next step is to get ahead of the mini two. Need to buy me a lovely og dual shock and a copy of ape escape

I'd love them ty Ty ty

Shame Sony's using a shit emulator config. You're probably better off buying a Vita.
The throwback to the Pal era is also incredibly stupid. Dreamcast kindof standardized fullscreen 60Hz for me and I've never looked back since. Neither should Sony.

If theyre just releasing PAL versions of the games they may as well delay the whole thing by 8 months for the authentic 50Hz experience.

If the 60Hz games are skipping frames then it sounds like a 50Hz system with butchered NTSC games.

Doesn't even sound like something people will want to hack. What s screw up.

N64 would tempt me but it would need a proper N64 controller and the right lineup (or be hackable).

davyK wrote:

N64 would tempt me but it would need a proper N64 controller and the right lineup (or be hackable).

Yeah the N64 pad is very important for certain games, 6 face buttons are a must for some games.

I had Virtual Kasparov. I remember thinking the poly-Kasparov looked dodgy even back then. It must be a real horror now.

I can remember Virtual Kasparov having a training/lesson/puzzle mode which gave you feedback based on your moves from a polygonal Kasparov head.   This was the PS1 game.

It was actually quite well presented - I always had a soft spot for chess games as I always liked checking out how they were presented.  It's 3D board wasn't much cop - that gen just didn't have the resolution to carry it off - but it had a lovely crisp classic 2D mode though.

Sony is absolute shit at software emulation solutions. The only reason why PS1 emulation on PS2, PS3, PS4 and PSP/vita was any cop was because those were mostly hw based.

If they want dedicated emulators running on off the shelves arm/Intel x86 hw they should assemble a dedicated team developing and fine tuning the sw. This ps classic just doesn't cut it.

From what I've read, they just picked up an open source emulator, not even a particularly great one on ARM, and dropped it in as-is. They really didn't spend any time or money on the PS Classic at all.

AJ wrote:

From what I've read, they just picked up an open source emulator, not even a particularly great one on ARM, and dropped it in as-is. They really didn't spend any time or money on the PS Classic at all.

That's definitely how it seems from the little I've seen about it. I was thinking in a wider sense as described in the above post. Just an explanation of why emulating PlayStations might be trickier than certain other consoles

cockbeard wrote:

hunk wrote:

Sony is absolute shit at software emulation solutions. The only reason why PS1 emulation on PS2, PS3, PS4 and PSP/vita was any cop was because those were mostly hw based. If they want dedicated emulators running on off the shelves arm/Intel x86 hw they should assemble a dedicated team developing and fine tuning the sw. This ps classic just doesn't cut it.

It's not totally their fault. They could have locked down a bunch of software libraries and dev tools and made sure that developers could only use those, but that would have massively stifled creativity and we definitely wouldn't have seen games mature on the hardware in the way that they did. Look at the difference between early and late games on each PlayStation. Whereas a lot of Nintendo stuff the best games on the console were launch titles

This approach, leaving the chips wide open to developers obviously makes it much more difficult to emulate as the developers could be doing something completely unanticipated. I wonder whether it might be a solution to actually emulate the hardware itself at the silicone level, but I've no idea how possible this is or isn't, likely isn't I'd imagine

Is the above not true of all consoles? I’m not aware of ever having heard of locked tools and libraries on certain platforms.

The Bone runs in a VM which should make it emminently back-compatibleible in the future, but that’s different to locking down tools.

Yossarian wrote:

Is the above not true of all consoles? I’m not aware of ever having heard of locked tools and libraries on certain platforms. The Bone runs in a VM which should make it emminently back-compatibleible in the future, but that’s different to locking down tools.

I imagine not. Nintendo were notorious for enforcing rigorous standards on all third party devs, that Nintendo Seal of Quality, was quite the millstone for some firms. Plus MS would distribute huge libraries with their dev kits and I believe that they discouraged third party investment into new libraries or working at the silicone level because they would then want to share those libraries with all other third parties. I've never been in the industry, but have heard these kinds of mumblings at Game City and Game City Nights when I would attend pretty regularly

SOC would be ideal, if we're now down to 7nm maybe they could squeeze a few onto a single chip, using the same chip across several of these novelty boxes, maybe in the PS5 to guarantee BC, should lower production costs due to bulk buying

Emulation is never perfect, NES and Mega Drive seem to be the best from what I've played. N64 is a mess and Saturn still impossible? I always thought PSone was the easiest the emulate from that gen.