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I think this is the tech which will eventually miniaturise into contact lens displays. It’s the stuff of sci-if dreams for sure. -
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Did you guys see that Gal Gadot porn thing? That's fucking creepy tech imo. Combined with that thing that makes people say whatever you want, fuck. Imagine what'll be around in 20 years time.
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poprock wrote:I think this is the tech which will eventually miniaturise into contact lens displays. It’s the stuff of sci-if dreams for sure.
Agreed. This version does look amusing and will receive plenty of mocking but it is for start ups, studios and tinkerers at this stage. It won't need someone soldering circuit boards but will probably need some software digging.
A version being sold in Argos is probably a few iterations away yet, then that would lead onto regular sized glasses, then contacts. -
Liveinadive wrote:Chers Pop. I don't go in the VR thread but really interested in AR like Magicleap and Hololens. I think this path is the future of this kind of thing.
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At this stage I think they are relatable enough that comparisons are worth discussing.
Although I agree they are different things.
There will be crossover but ultimately the divide will be immersion vs enhancement.
VR will give the user the ultimate in immersion, taking them out of the real world and into somewhere new. Gaming will remain a big industry for VR with stuff like Resi 7. Obviously this will only improve as tech improves, right now it still feels like being in a digital environment but that will change. I would say the scope is somewhat limited though, games, movie type experiences, training (for things like harsh environments e.g firefighters, astronauts)
AR is about enhancement and that covers a much broader spectrum. At it's most basic, it could potentially replace any screen you normally look at from mobiles to cinema screens. Once the tech is there it could replace all those screens from our environments.
I dont see much scope with the way we play video games today but when tailored to the tech it could be brilliant. Tabletop board games could see a total revival, I am sure the Games Workshop guys would love to be able to play a full table top game online with friends, using their real pieces alongside digital representations of their opponent's.
For what I do (visualisation for architects, brands etc) I can only see this stuff as the future. VR is being used but the current limitations make for a fun experience but normally limited to a single user and difficult to discuss, most want a movie or stills to support the VR experience. AR, allows for people to interact visually with each other as well as what is being presented. Fingers can be pointed at stuff.
Beyond that, the instructional uses are perfect. Google maps is always the big one people think of, big red arrows projected onto street. Beyond that there is any instance a user wants to follow instruction while using their hands, so IKEA flat packs, recipes, disarming a bomb, cullilingus tips. -
My god man furnish me with a link forthwith.nick_md wrote:Did you guys see that Gal Gadot porn thing? That's fucking creepy tech imo. Combined with that thing that makes people say whatever you want, fuck. Imagine what'll be around in 20 years time.Live= sgt pantyfire PSN= pantyfire -
Dude it's nearly 2018, just type pron hub and gadot and it's probably the first thumbnail. So I'm told.
Is fair uncanny valley. -
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Would be interested to hear your thoughts Skez. I am very tempted, obviously need to know price first.
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Send messageMm who knows what they'll price it at but we'll likely pick up one to play with.
At this stage it's still vapourware but promising vapourware. The gesture stuff looks good on paper, though what really pokes me is the lightfield stuff. HoloLens does a reasonable job of mapping an environment but it's a bit woolly; seamlessly (relatively) weave virtual objects into your complex real space and then I'm keen. This won't settle for 10-20 years but it's an alleged advance on what we have now. Soon as I have one I'll talk about it. AR/MR will be a massive industry, no doubting it.Skerret's posting is ok to trip balls to and read just to experience the ambience but don't expect any content.
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Yeah 10-20 years was my reckoning but seems a very likely prospect.
The way I do what I currently do won't be the way forever so I need to look at something for the future. -
I do believe this is the future – not VR.
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Liveinadive wrote:
For what I do (visualisation for architects, brands etc) I can only see this stuff as the future. VR is being used but the current limitations make for a fun experience but normally limited to a single user and difficult to discuss, most want a movie or stills to support the VR experience. AR, allows for people to interact visually with each other as well as what is being presented. Fingers can be pointed at stuff.
We do use VR for exactly that stuff, and we’re a relatively small company of 25-ish. We tend to export/view our BIM models as environments a client can walk around video game style, and allow VR access through Cardboard etc. We do sometimes solve the interaction problem by projecting into a dome instead – we have a partner company for that who have a pop-up spherical ‘pod’ with projection kit in the middle. A group of people can stand inside and get a near-360° experience, navigating around it with an iPad. Good for chatting, pointing at things, etc. -
Yeah I work with a couple of companies that utilise VR, less interior design and more store layout stuff. It isn't without merit at all but in my experience, while it impresses, there can be a reluctance to pay what is necessary for it, a fair bit more work than stills, although they are using full on Oculus stuff. Of course that is just my experience.
I have had a go in one of the early version of those pods at Northampton uni, great stuff but at the time was very much not portable. I think portability and ease of setup is key for the pitch market so it is good that it has come along in that.
I think what AR will add to interior design and layout/promo will be onsite visuals, being in the old space then putting on a headset and seeing the new design around you will be really powerful and much more natural.
For architecture there is definitely a market for a "doll's house" table top visual that can be moved and manipulated. In fact anyway that a client can mark up a visual within a 3D space would be brilliant, 3D print a casing over the controller in the shape of a big red marker and have them go nuts. -
Hmmm.. From the very early reports it suggests that the launch tech ain't exactly the model that demanded the $2billion investment budget... hopefully.
They must have some decent non-consumer/horribly clunky and vast stuff behind closed doors that this portable consumer dev grunt is hiding behind? You'd hope?
It's great though to finally see some lightfield tech in the open finally but they look to be generally launching a squitted up MS HoloLens devkit (with a fairly equivalent squiffy fov) for a presumable vast dev level budget which may not get a massive commercial uptake at this stage? They are clearly not looking at anything close to the mass market at this launch. Drop the testicle in the pond?
Hey ho.. this is the future of the whole VR/AR/MR tech I guess but this kind of adds grease to the wheels that we're a good decade or more out from this getting to anything approaching what it needs to be...the mildly heavy Oalkey specs with maybe a battery pack?
The FoV seems to have been slightly upgraded from the Hololens version.. jolly good; it needed that. There still doesn't appear to be any muliti focal point stuff so it's all a a bit raw but.. it's early days so... maybe..A lot of the big bastards have been shown and thrown in the billions so they're certainly capitalised nicely at this point.
The mass market, Facebook, Instagram, Snapper folks surely aren't understandably the focus of this initial punt of the multi thousand$ dev kit? If anything this announce shows how far it is from consumer tech that they've got at his point.
Hey ho.. this is very much a tickle in the water and not the barn stormer finished, multi billion investment product that might have been but fair play. Get it out the door..
I was hoping given the hype and money generated that devkit1 would be a good deal juicier but hey ho.. I think this just suggests that Rift/Vive will be her for the next decade or so yet.
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I think it is just the state of where tech is right now.
You and others are right, we are talking a couple of decades before this is full on consumer tech.
I think in a few years it will be at a stage where specialists and enthusiasts will have something to easily use, walk into a board room and hand over glasses kind of thing. The long term will be multiple sets of light weight glasses running off a local network with one machine (laptop, tower) doing the work.
It certainly isn't there now but what I think this and Hololens are, are stepping stones. Like I said before, this is a kit that can be bought by software developers to develop for, prior to these it was hardware research with soldering and crazy meccano like rigs. Obviously the hardware will continue to improve alongside software but this leap has to happen at some point and now seems a good time. -
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Ah unlucky DS the box is empty this time, no one goes away empty handed though, here's a keyring and a Little Chef voucher (not valid on weekends).
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