bad_hair_day wrote:

Andy wrote:

bad_hair_day wrote:

If you can do home improvements, mow the lawn, use a pressure washer etc till 11pm you can play music Nick.

I really, really hope this is sarcasm.

It really, really isn’t.

Then you need to get a grip.

Noisy home improvements generally become antisocial much earlier in the day, because of the nature of the noise.

Mowing the lawn and pressure washers are a different type of noise, and tend not to last as long, but would also be considered anti-social much earlier in the day than 11pm.

There is specific legislation in relation to music. It might be worth noting that, despite prevailing misconceptions, there is no specified time of day. (Edit: In Scotland, anyway. I’m not sure about you uncivilised lot down south.)

I've a petrol mower that runs close to my neighbour's bedroom window, so I never use it past 9:30. It's basic manners. The view that Fridays and Saturdays are loud nights is a pubs-and-clubs thing, not a home situation.

I've speakers with 4" woofers despite having an outside wall between me and my one neighbour (our bungalows are joined like a tetromino twoer), and I daren't really go for 5s or 6s. If I lived in a detached, absolutely. 8s, even.

I lived next to a nightmare family for the best part of two years and their noise was hellish. Their terror kids banged doors and ran around screaming almost every morning, and the dad was a DIY arsehole at all hours. He never did a job in one go, preferring to spread it over instalments through laziness and/or incompetence. Thin walls are the worst.

I'm also very careful because I'd never get another home if my council evicted me. I've a form in one of my kitchen drawers about how to complain about antisocial behaviour, and we've all numbers for it. There was a time when my garden was a bit wild and a couple of locals mentioned it to me, which I was grateful for because they could've gone straight to management.

Andy, my grip is on reality ta very much. We're talking a bit of occasional music FFS.

From what Nick has written, how she's ignored his neighbourly gift and banging on the windows she sounds delightful.

Anyway, no good will come of this debate I'm off to enjoy Friday night, starting with three hours of tap dancing.




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nick_md wrote:

I'm about as intimidating as The Dude.

My stance is that I had it too loud for a weekday night, but there should be some flex on Friday / Saturday. I don't think that's unreasonable but wasn't planning on saying as such / confronting over the issue.

Having to put up with someone else's noise in your own home is incredibly intrusive. Just imagine, it's Friday night after a long week at work and all you want to is sit down and relax with a book and a glass of wine, then, from next door all you can hear is a muffled thump of bass from some shit music (your music may well not be shit, but if it's not exactly what someone wants to hear in their house, it is to them). That will make anyone angry.

Yeah but, Friday night innit.

Any road, I shall cease playing music who've minimal volume and will send an apology card, that won't get acknowledged.

My new neighbours upstairs think it's ok to clomp around in high heels laughing and shouting and dropping crap on the floor until 4 in the morning during the week. They may have to meet my drum machine and amp during Sunday morning hangovers.

nick_md wrote:

bad_hair_day wrote:

Tell her if she does that shit again, you'll cut her fucking ears off.

Plan B.

Make her listen to Ill Manors at a reasonable volume.

My neighbours either side are both virtually deaf, we should swap houses nick. Or maybe they're your ex neighbours ahahahahahaaaa

bad_hair_day wrote:

You're very well endowed.  Or quite aroused.

Well yes with kids its no doubt different but as a handsome, charming, desirable young bachelor, give a fuck.

Just to point out, the 11pm cutoff time is indeed a real thing, but presumably not in Scotland.

Noise at night: warning notices
Councils can investigate complaints of statutory nuisance to tackle noise produced at any time of day or night.

They may also issue warning notices in response to complaints about noise above permitted levels from 11pm to 7am. These warning notices can be used by councils for noise that’s not a statutory nuisance.

The warning notice must tell the recipient:

that the noise is coming from the premises between 11pm and 7am
that the noise exceeds, or may exceed permitted levels as measured from within the complainant’s dwelling
that the noise must be reduced to below the permitted level in a specified period (this must be at least 10 minutes after the notice is served and must end by 7am)
what time the notice is issued

Permitted noise levels
The permitted noise level using A-weighted decibels (the unit environmental noise is usually measured in) is:

34 dBA (decibels adjusted) if the underlying level of noise is no more than 24 dBA
10 dBA above the underlying level of noise if this is more than 24 dBA

tl:dr, you can be done for noise complaints at any time of day, but between 11PM and 7AM there is a specified volume you cannot go above.

Dark Soldier wrote:

I lost my music system to an arse accident.

Whut?

Dark Soldier wrote:

I find the whole "think of others" about such things a bit lol because invariably the person who complains is only thinking about their own household so fucked if I'm gonna care about it.

I hate to sound like a bleeding-heart lefty-liberal, but with this kind of attitude, we’re all fucked.

Dark Soldier wrote:

I doubt 90% who complain about it would come knocking if it was bothering every other household but they couldn't hear it.

I don’t think you’ve thought that one through.

nick_md wrote:

Just ask me normally to turn it down and I happily will, whilst feeling bad that I've upset you. Don't damn near break my windows with your fist.

Your music was loud, perhaps they tried quieter but you didn't respond. 

Playing loud music (as said before) is a dick move. Folks may have babies in bed, work shifts, work 9-5 hours and are stressed beyond belief and desperately need that sleep etc. Also, loads of people don't work M-F, so the concept of the Friday night sesh is moot. Anyway, this has all been said before. 

I had a neighbour 20 years of so back that decided to play Believe by Cher on repeat on the day of it's release on CD single, at full blast, with all her windows open. Totally different scenario, but she had no appreciation for other people's concerns. By the end of the day she'd had her stereo taken away from her and 3 death threats. 2 from la-di-da Surrey mums. 

The apology avenue seems totally apt and will show her that you're the fine chap we all know you to be. 

I think our differing perspectives on this come down to our current situations. I live in a residential area with a real sense of community, so anything out of the norm is cleared with neighbours in advance ("we're having an 18th birthday party, it will be loud, stick your cars on the drive etc. Feel free to come along'. Tigro has a little cub so would also be aghast at this etc. As a bachelor of some distinction, you're doing what quite a few of us would do. Negatively impacting someone's homelife is more damaging than you can imagine for some people, although the fact she didn't thank you for your generous gesture reflects very badly on her.