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    Skerret wrote:
    Drag me to Hell is best Raimi since Evil Dead 2.
    Nor sure if you've watched it lately, it doesn't stand up for me.

    There’s pills for that.
    Yes but what about the film
    Skerret's posting is ok to trip balls to and read just to experience the ambience but don't expect any content.
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    Is this the horror thread now?

    Good, I'll come back to it.

    The third Paranormal Activity was pretty effective, nifty camera work.
    Skerret's posting is ok to trip balls to and read just to experience the ambience but don't expect any content.
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    Can't steal a copy of Saint Maud yet as it was only released this week or last or maybe next. So a late substitution means off the bench comes It Follows, yes from the same metacritic list, because if I'd made my own list they would all be films I knew I liked which would be pointless and crazy. Thoughts later
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    I really liked the Witch - moody, strange and open to interpretation.
    Brilliant fillum.
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    It Follows

    Growing up on 80's slashers you know that horror movies are all about punishing promiscuous teens, seems the director knew this as well given his first film was called "Myth of the American Sleepover", which sounds like it might as well have been "Slumberparty Massacre". Anyway in some strange town which seems to have no adults, a curse appears which threw me a curve ball by not only punishing sexual activity, but then also encouraging it, removing the moral imperative that 80s baddies his behind

    The local "pretty" girl decides to put out and it all starts going wrong from there. After sex she's chlorophormed and kidnapped and so I expected it to go down the torture porn route but thankfully I got further exposition. The embodiment of the curse moves at walking pace but seems relentless (once again hello Richard Gale, I love a slow chase), and so we head into a deep dive of the relationships between the kids. This is where it excels, you feel that these kids actually know and care for each other, they interact on their own terms. Latchkey kids they may be, but they care for each other even when no parents are there to do so

    Towards the end we find ourselves at a swimming pool. I was immediately thinking of Let The Right One In, Elm Street 2, and Gremlins, now I'm wondering whether it's actually a trope or not, I think not, but it did once again evoke nostalgia for those slasher flicks, the director is clearly a genre fan, and also a really good filmmaker. A loveletter to my early horror days, a fun movie, and an ambiguous open ending. A lot to like there [7]
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    Jacob's ladder. The main inspiration to the silent hill games.
    One of my favourite films of all time.

    Brilliant addendum to Jacob's ladder/Silent Hill2. Beware for spoilers though as the main themes and endings are examined and explained in detail.
    Spoiler:
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    It Follows is fucking shit, cocko. Just watch Sauna again.
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    5 Oct Dracula: Pages from a Virgin's Diary

    I'd been really wanting not to completely slate anything on this list. That's why I'm writing this having slept on the film twice and starting to watch it again thinking I must've not given it a chance, or missed something. So in the interests of fairness I'm going to lay my potential biases out first

    "I don't like musicals" - Well despite myself, when I think about it, it seems I actually do. Give me Fred and Ginger, Gene Kelly, hell even La-La-Fucking-Land are all decent spectacles, and time spent that I don't beg to be returned to me

    "I don't like ballet" - I don't know if I don't like ballet, because this utter norbert decides to keep framing the torsos of people while they dance, what's the point in that?

    "I don't understand dance" - If you want to hide your shit in a secretive code then it's quite clearly pretentious fuckwittery and doesn't deserve an audience

    This is just complete twaddle, it gave me nothing, and actually served to anger me to the point that I gave the second act onwards short shrift, which was silly of me, as Dracula is very pretty, and they actually do some decent dancing at that point, for a short while, then back to framing torsos. Imagine how shit Singing In The Rain would look if it was a head and shoulder shot the whole way through. Too little, too late for me though

    I think they saw that French movie that got the oscar and thought they'll have some of that, mark missed by a long way. I'm giving one point to Dracula for being very pretty, and two points to Renfield, for attempting to wank himself out of the movie and onto the cutting room floor [3]

    In case you didn't believe me about Renfield, here he is clearly hoping to get edited out by the BBFC or similar



    timecode seems intermittent on here, so go to 3:45
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  • Nice work, Cocko.

    Looking forward to more reviews as they come.
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    Growing up on 80's slashers you know that horror movies are all about punishing promiscuous teens, seems the director knew this as well given his first film was called "Myth of the American Sleepover", which sounds like it might as well have been "Slumberparty Massacre". Anyway in some strange town which seems to have no adults, a curse appears which threw me a curve ball by not only punishing sexual activity, but then also encouraging it, removing the moral imperative that 80s baddies his behind.
    More than encouraging, compelling. It avoids the usual choice of either morally judging sexual freedom or celebrating it, and instead presents it as a burden. Or in terms of the horror aspect of the film, a relentless tension.
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    Get Out

    Rewatching this for the first time since it's release. Bloody good film, not quite sure it's the genre defining moment some have lauded it as. Although most of what it does has been done before, this is definitely the Kenwood of stand mixers, and the cake it makes is far more than the sum of it's parts. For a genre that has very rarely helped to progress racial and sexual politics (Black Devil Doll), it's nice to see it at least being mentioned. Though the "white-face" is really very jarring, even more so on a second viewing, which makes me wonder if I for some reason wasn't bothered by it first time

    So a black photographer is off to spend the weekend with his white girlfriend's family, he's well aware of potential issues around his colour, whereas she seems oblivious. Are the family overcompensating, or do all minorities just see prejudice everywhere?? That's the question I want the audience to ask themselves, not because minorities are, but to see why we have our spidey-senses so finely tuned as the consequences are large enough to not run the risk

    Top performance from Kaluuya, as usual, and I really enjoyed the guy from Atlanta as well. I didn't notice him at the start of the movie first time I watched it. In fact a lot of extra signposting came out at me on the second watching. That doesn't make me feel stupid or cheated for missing it first time around, it makes me happy that the conclusion was a destination the film had been aiming towards since the start. Definitely well worth a watch, and actually belongs in this list [9]
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    Under the Shadow

    I love a ghost story, and this was a cracking one. Admittedly the location also helps, but you don't need much background to pick up the thread. If the location does intrigue you though then you should really go and read Persepolis, a truly wonderful book

    So we're in the middle of the Iran/Iraq war, Iran has now removed the Shah for the Ayatollah and a promising medical career is dashed before it's begun simply because the doctor is a woman. Given the shite in the media it's easy to forget than only a generation ago Iran was a very forward thinking nation, had enjoyed the swinging sixties and all that went with that. Now suddenly plunged into the dark ages, as a cleric says late in the movie "A woman should be more scared of exposing herself than anything else, be ashamed"!!?? Oh really fella? the city is under rocket attack, my husband has been conscripted, and a demon is trying to steal my daughter, but yeah you're right, my hair's uncovered, that's the problem here

    So I guess I gave the plot up there, and like any ghost story there doesn't need to be a lot more. The best of all of these take place in the "half-time", the dozy moments between sleep and wake, the millisecond your eyes take a last glance before taking in whatever you turned your head towards, and with all the distractions of war, parenthood, and society there's a lot of that "half-time" to be found. Some of my favourite films are foreign language, maybe it focuses the mind a little more, makes you more inclined to keep eyes on the screen, and that's where you want them for this film as it shows you everything and tells you very little. Even one piece of exposition about a dumb child (which admittedly probably couldn't easily have been done another way) led into another thoroughly creepy moment

    This list is actually delivering a little now, I see some treats ahead and I'm so very glad this film has been introduced to me. Is it a feminist's cry about the lie sold about having it all? Quite possibly, but that's something worth shouting about. It's almost all shot in one room with two actors, but doesn't rely on claustrophobia, and manages to have some lovely shots in it, as well as actually scaring you, well me at least [9]
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  • Yeah, it's a real great one.
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    I thought Get Out was quite unexceptional. An okay film, I just never got fawning adoration it seemed to receive.

    I watched Ghost Stories last night, which I think is superb.
    Get schwifty.
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    I thought Get Out was quite unexceptional. An okay film, I just never got fawning adoration it seemed to receive.

    Completely agree.

    I didn't go mad for Under the Shadow either. It was absolutely fine, but I thought it was a fairly standard horror film wrapped up in an inspired setting. Solid [7], enjoyed and would recommend but didn't see greatness myself.
  • Get Out is a very political film that identified the subtle horror of modern, so I don't think it's any surprise it was well received. Cocko in here showing the lads how we do horror at least.

    I'm only joking, before you all get in a tizz. But Horror is great, especially when it mixes sociology and politics in well, which is what these two films do.
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    Cheers for the feedback on Candyman - I think I still have it on DVD - might do a Halloween watch.

    Re old Tv. The first Sapphire & Steele was the creepiest for me - it was connected with reciting a nursery rhyme in a house and I've always felt dark undertones with nursery rhymes.

    The later stores were very good but the 1st House That Jack Built story was really creepy for me.

    There's an old 70s one-off called the Stone Tape that is worth a look - I remember that being pretty creepy and having a downbeat ending too.

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    I also remember a TV mini series in the Quatermass canon with John Mills playing the lead. Whilst it was sci fi it was creepy as it was based around a phenomenon of large gatherings of young people at stone circles disappearing. Had a creepy exposition later on explaining it. Prob late 70s - early 80s.
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    Carrie

    Not a film I'd ever gone back to, and I went in with a little baggage. My memories of the opening scene had been spoilt by porn and teensploitation, yet despite this it still managed to smack up side the head. The initial horseplay being a juxtaposition for the loneliness felt in public a few moments later. Whilst any subtlety implied here was blown away too often later it did remind me that there must be a reason this is on the list and I should give it more time

    Carrie's mum may have gotten rave reviews for this she seemed a touch hammy to me now, but I guess that's the difference between playing to a theatre and playing to a camera. But wow what a camera, De Palma deserves massive props here, so many bloody gorgeous shots that by the time of the Prom itself I'd started to take them for granted, but I want him sat on my shoulder telling me where to point my eyes, just because he's so damn good at that. The windy shot between the trees on Carries home avenue, evoking suburbia so well, that crane shot above the prom opening, the dance macabre with her mother. A bloody gorgeous movie all in all

    Despite the plot having a few too many holes, how is Sue seemingly unaware of the plan?? Why should I be sympathetic to her and not the nameless schoolmates who perished, I found myself really enjoying this, so for De Palma's work I probably mark it higher than I might [8]
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  • Loving your thoughts in this thread, cocko.
  • The tux buying scenes are top drawer too.
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    The Host

    Excited to watch this again, not seen it in years but remember fawning over it somewhat. It's not often you see America cast as the bad guy, and still surprising that Korean films do it again and again, though not often as blatantly as here. That said Korea has created some bloody amazing movies and this is right up there amongst it's best output. So I'm clearly biased, but also correct

    I bloody love this film, a monster movie that's not afraid to show you the monster. And that theme runs throughout, no subtext, just text and loads of it, fuck 'Murica, fuck authority, believe in yourself even if you are an octopus nibbling waster. Just a beautiful movie, go watch it. I'm fawning again because I'm an idiot [10]

    edit: also Welcome to Dongmakgol is worth your time if in a Korean mood. thinking now the morning after watching it again, I wrote the above in notepad, The Host seems even more relevant today than it did 12 years ago, especially given the state of the "free world"
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    One Cut of the Dead

    Wow, not sure how much I can say wothout spoiling it, though the title already does that a little, even if I'd failed to notice. My ignorance pleased me though as it gave me a little fillip of wonderment partway through. I fully expected this to be simple eye-candy to whet my appetite for Babadook later on (which I strangely haven't watched yet, so am excited for)

    After about five minutes I'd written "Well what better way to make a zero-budget horror movie than to make a movie about someone making a zero-budget horror movie". After about 35 minutes I realised it was so much more than that. The final pull-back and reveal being an absolutely joyous affair that had me laughing out loud and then whooping with delight. More films should be their own "making of.." documentaries, though I've no idea what they'll put on the DVD extras for this one as it looks lik they played it all out there and then

    Not really a horror, but a like many others in this list a love-letter to the genre, and an absolute riot to watch. If you're going in cold and you aren't grinning from ear to ear by the end then you're (un)dead inside [9] and I thought it was going to be a [7]

    edit: Just realised it reminds me of the best advert ever made

    despite it clearly starting Brexit
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    I don't believe I have ever watched Carrie all the way through in one sitting. No reason - has just worked out that way.

    The split screen sections raised eyebrows in the day.
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    The Babadook

    Somehow I never got around to watching this before now. This one actually scared the crap outta me, to the point I had to watch it again today, just to exorcise it. So we've a young widow with a problem child, and wow he really is a problem. A bedtime reading of a pop-up book and the scenes aren't the only thing that jumps out of the book. The book is gorgeous though. The child Sam was so annoying that I wanted him to get eaten pretty early, but I guess that's testament to the actor's performance, both the leads are amazingly well performed

    Post-natal depression, grief, the drudgery of day to day life are reflected in the house with it's dark grey walls and stark minimal furnishings. The characters are realised fully and that's what makes the film so affecting, no jump scares here, just people you empathise with in peril. My skin crawled several times, it worked. The monster is rarely shown, but you see how scared the characters are and that's contagious. If the sound guys/girls didn't get awards for this they should be disappointed. Aurally it's wicked, and that's often how it pulls your strings, well mine anyway

    Annoying kid becomes scary kid, depressed mother spirals deeper, echoes of El Orfanato. Cracking study of grief, depression, and anxiety. Scared my boobies off, amazed it's a debut picture, had a lot offer and delivered on it [9]
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  • Brilliant film. Also the reason I'm not allowed to watch horror films in the house unless the family are out. Wife freaked out while she was watching American Horror Story because of something that happened with my daughter when she was very young (can't remember what), so she stopped watching that. Then she was out one night, I was watching The Badabook with a mate and my daughter started vomiting over the baby monitor at the same time as the kid in the film. I made the mistake of going for 'lol you'll never guess what happened' as soon as Mrs. Geeza got home, and that was that for horrors in the house. I've got to respect the nonsense really, so I only get to watch my favourite genre when they're away in the caravan.
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    Hahaha, I've known a few partners who take stuff like that far too seriously
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  • My mates mum is a strict catholic and she banned copies of The Omen and The Exorcist from the house as she feared they would invite the devil in. They didn’t, just our mate Chris. At the time he was a bit naughty though
    Not everything is The Best or Shit. Theres many levels between that, lets just enjoy stuff.
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    Joke's on you when Chris turns out to be Satan after all
    Skerret's posting is ok to trip balls to and read just to experience the ambience but don't expect any content.
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    The Antichris.
    Get schwifty.

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