Do Boardgames Dream of Miniature Porn?
  • Kickstarter Here.

    It's just hit $4 million. Madness.

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    Lots of pin-up titty miniatures, but when they ignore that and go for the dark fantasy stuff they nail it:

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  • Ive been following KDM on boardgame geek for over a year. 
    It's really intriguing. It's essentially a demon souls and monster hunter with an town building game in paper form. 
    I'd love to give it a go but it's eye watering expensive. 
    I think originally it was going circa £250 for the base set (which is a huge box) but last time it was actual available to buy from their shop it was about £500 iirc. I could be wrong about that though.
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  • Doh. I was just about to pull the trigger on the $200 pledge for the base game but i couldn't find the shipping costs so i hesitated. 
    The last $200 pledge went as i was trying to find them. 
    Now it's a min of $250+40 shipping, so the best part of £300. Still too rich for my blood ($200+40 was as well to be honest but i could have always cancelled the pledge when reason kicked in).

    Pity really as the pricing is limiting access to what looks to be a fascinating and unique game.
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    So GW have done a PDF for legacy teams that might not appear for a while, if at all.

    I knew the Death Zone supplements would add the more famous teams over several installments but I never expected this tbh. It's encouraging people to use either old GW minis that are only available on eBay etc or take the easier route of buying other companies fantasy football minis.

    Still, good work GW. Seems they're dedicated to the fan base at least.

    http://19070-presscdn-0-68.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/BB-Teams-of-Legend-Revised-1.pdf

    It's a fantastic version of the game, I'm made up with it. The box, board, dice, minis, rulebook... everything is top notch.
  • I would buy it but have nobody yo play with. Looks great.

    I had a Chaos Dwarf team. Captained by Durgin Ripperfist. What a player he was. Seriously injured or killed 3 halflings in a game once.
  • Played some scythe last night for the first time.
    I really like Scythe

    And kdm had no chance in getting my money.
    There's getting a board game and then just being silly with money.
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    FranticPea wrote:
    So GW have done a PDF for legacy teams that might not appear for a while, if at all.

    Nice one, GW. Very cool.

    I spotted something interesting in the blurb for the My Dugout app for BB - as well as High, Wood, and Dark Elf teams, there's something called Elf Union. Colour me intrigued.
    For those with an open mind, wonders always await! - Kilton (monster enthusiast)
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    Yeh I saw that.

    Everyone should move to Warrington and we can start a league. Something for you all to think about looking towards 2017.

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    I started painting earlier.

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    Feeling a bit rusty, haven't done any in aaaages. Be reet though, will look great on the board. I'm not entering Golden frigging Demon.
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    Niiiiice. What did you use the Lahmian Medium for? That's one thing I've yet to experiment with from the GW paint range.
    For those with an open mind, wonders always await! - Kilton (monster enthusiast)
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    Just to seal the transfers. Could just use my other big pot of matt varnish but I bought that ages ago and never used it so thought I would.

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    FranticPea wrote:
    Just to seal the transfers.

    Ah, cunning.
    For those with an open mind, wonders always await! - Kilton (monster enthusiast)
  • So I think I've got this coming for Xmas, having in the dim and distant past owned the very first Blood Bowl and the polystyrene pitch version from a few years after that (which was rather distressingly in the boot of my car when stolen and never recovered but that's another story).

    I've never been into painting but really fancy getting into it for at least this. I have:

    No paints
    No brushes
    No clue

    Any pointers? Any good websites for tips? Which paints should I get from GW to start with, with a view to completing the miniatures out of the base box. Appreciate this is a big ask and apologies if any tips have been posted before. I don't recall.
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  • I don't have any paint tips, sorry, but I think you're in luck - there's been a lot of paint talk here recently, so I'm sure someone can point you in the right direction.
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    I'm still bumbling through myself, watching tutorials and such. I'm really heavy handed and constantly have to touch up before thinking "ah fuck it, they'll look fine on the table." And that's all I care about tbh.

    I've just built up a collection of paint over the last few years, and bought GW mainly because there's a Toymaster right near me that does 5 for a tenner. Experienced painters might warn you away but it was just convenient for me.

    I'm following the Orc painting tutorial for my....Orcs from the Warhammer TV YouTube channel. Boring predictable red Orc team but whatever. I learned alot and I had most of the colours that they said to use. Helped quite a bit having colours that were produced to go together.

    I'll be more adventurous with the Humans and Skaven, promise.
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    As for brushes, loads of places recommend the Window and Newton series 7 Kolinsky Sable ones. I invested in some and they've made a huge difference. They keep their points amazingly and the paint flows off them much better than the cheaper brushes I had.

    Not painted for months but I'm back on it now and determined to improve.
  • It's always worth paying for a good paintbrush.

    Played a lot of karuba over the weekend. Was very good.
  • Thanks chaps - I shall investigate.
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  • As they up there say. Good brushes and good paint gets you better results.
    Your painting ability will get you good results no matter you use what but good equipment will make it better still.

    Basics:
    All figures need to be prepared, washed and primed.
    Use a nail file or something to sand down the flashing from the moulding process, it will stick out like a sore thumb when you start painting.
    Next, wash the figures in soapy water.
    Then prime them - spray primer is the quickest way of doing this. It gives a slight textured surface for the paint to grip onto, this allows the paint to cover without streaking and helps prevent it from chipping of later.
    I use either the Citadel primer or the Tamiya primer, with Tamiya being a bit more expensive i think. The citadel stuff is the giant cans you get in Games Workshop.
    The primer colour to use is kind of important. You are meant to use a colour relevant to how you want the finished thing to look.
    So a dark colour primer (black) for a dark figure and a white primer for a light/bright coloured figure.
    I tend to use the mid grey primer as it kind of does both.
    To prime multiple figures quickly get a flat bit of cardboard and bluetack the under side of the figures to it so you can easily get the spray on every facet of the figures.

    Once prepped, you can paint.
    Now this is a whole different league!

    If you are just starting out it might be easier to do a flat colour for each detail of the figure, so take Frantics figure above - flat red for the armour of a mid tone that you desire, then a flat colour (brown) for the pants etc... Etc...
    Then apply a wash to it. A wash is a high pigment but extremely thin version of paint. It will flow into the recesses and cling around the details and add tone to the flat colour, it will always make the figure dark though so bear this in mind when picking your original armour base colour.
    This will be the quickest and easiest way of painting a figure for the amature painter.

    Painting advanced.
    Similar to the above i.e. Pick a mid tone red for the armour BUT this time you will be manually mixing darker and lighter shades of that red and painting them onto the areas you want to accent.
    Pick a light direction, basically imagine the light is coming from a certain angle and then paint your figure, adding shade and highlights according to your imaginary light source.
    You always paint anything (canvas etc...: Starting at a mid tone of the colour you want then add depth with darker colours and pick out highlights with lighter. Be sparing with very light highlights as you can overdo it more than dark shadows.  
    It's tedious mixing the colour, painting a teensy bit then mixing a darker shade and repeating, but it does give the best results.

    And you probably won't get the colour coverage you want without multiple thin layers of that colour beginning applied. If you can concert the figure in red paint in one layer, then it's probably quite thick paint and it will look blobby. We are all guilty of doing this at some point, because it's a long winded process!

    Zenith painting - this is something i haven't tried before but  I'm am going to soon.
    Using primer you pick your imaginary light source and spray two different types, one light and one dark.
    So use white primer for where the light will be hitting your figure - say top left
    Then use black primer and spray onto the figure from the bottom right. You will get a very stark light and dark figure base.
    Now paint in the colours you want for the details but don't stress too much about totally covering the primer you've just sprayed on. Let a lot of it show through.
    It adds a bit of drama.

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    The one big tip i would also give is, the devil is in the detail.
    Say you have a belt with loads of rings on it and shit hanging off it, you will be very tempted to just paint it brown and be done with it. BUT if you pick out the buckle in gold and the rings in silver or Gray then all of a sudden your eye has lots to look at and out seems busier and more professional, a quick blob of gold will do the trick. Details like this are best left until last, just before applying a wash to the really dark areas if you want.

    Edit edit
    Doh i can't believe i forgot this.
    You have to varnish the figures when you have finished.
    It stops the paint chipping and its essential.
    You can use a paint on or spray varnish, either gloss or matt, your choice.

    Clapham ifs instead of its etc... = dodgy swipe keyboard.
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  • This is a great example of zenith painting
    http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Zenithal_Airbrushing,_OSL_and_Snow_and_Ice_Tutorial,_subject_-_Grey_Knight

    Most examples show the figure then being completely coated with paint which kind of defeats the purpose behind zenith imo. 

    In the one above he leaves a lot of the dark black in place and adds thin coloured layers to give the detail and i think in that example it works really well. 
    You kind of have to remember that these things are small so the lighting in the room will not do you any favours when it comes to making them look good or dramatic, you have to physical paint in that drama yourself.
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  • In that example of you look closely he's hardly done that much to the figure after the printing at all, apart from the fancy glow from the blade which is personal preference. 
    Also before he even starts adding the coloured details the figure actually looks quite good just silver and black. Add a black wash to that and as an amature I'm sure you would be fairly pleased with the result.
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    All depends how long you want to spend on them. I just want to do a decent job that looks good on the table. I want to be playing Blood Bowl ASAP, but not with blue and green figures.
  • Awesome and terrifying at the same time Panty - thanks!

    Quick N00B question. Do you buy washes or create them? I think it's a buy thing but thought I'd ask
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  • Think I've found the answer.
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  • Heh, sorry. 
    YEs you buy. 
    Black is the most useful. 
    You can buy them in several colours. 

    As for the normal paints any acrylic will do and the sets that are about £10 from The Works or Hobbeycraft will be fine as a starter but the games workshop paints are pretty good as they have quite high pigment content so they cover areas really well. Their Nuln Oil black wash is very good. 

    They also do what they call 'technical' paints and they are great too. Extra thick paints that are good for dry brushing scuff marks on things, rust paint with actually little bits of grit in it or lumpy paint like mud.
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  • FranticPea wrote:
    Gremill wrote:
    Cheers. It's a bit odd in here, this is the first and last time you'll see me. Cya nerds.

    I bought forbidden island. Second and last time.
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