He wants out of the shit not deeper in it!

That'd be nice Dante, cheers.

Retail for a big chain is almost certainly a terrible job, with shit hours and shit wages all while raking in tonnes of cash for some fucker somewhere up the chain who wouldn't give a shit if you dropped dead tomorrow (unless you did it in the shop and cost them earnings). On top of that, the only opportunity for advancement is becoming the voice of that fucker to the other employees who are scraping by on their shit wages. Retail for an independent may be different, but independents are becoming fewer and further between owing to big chains and/or the internet squeezing them out.

Retail would definitely be one of the levels of Dante's Transposed Inferno yeah.

It's one of these times my job seems secure because kids seem to be having more problems than fewer ///////

I’m in limbo with hashtagnewjob. It’s a month now since I first chatted with the company. Three weeks since my initial meeting with director #1. A week since my meeting with director #2. Nothing left for me to do but wait for their formal offer. I’m not good at sitting back and waiting, having no agency frustrates me.

The headhunter who contacted me last week was much quicker in her responses – the company she put me forward to decided they couldn’t afford me. Which is fair, I asked over the odds because I wasn’t excited by their client base.

There’s a left-field possibility. I applied for a position in New York with an insanely high salary. A small agency specialising in brand and packaging work for the luxury food and drink industry. Their USP is that they’re staffed entirely by Brits – and so have a totally different approach to their native US counterparts. I’d actually forgotten about applying for that one, but the closing date isn’t until the middle of the month, so who knows? My portfolio is strong on that kind of work.

Basically, taking one job application seriously has set my mind to making a career change. It’s time, one way or another.

Diluted Dante wrote:

Do you have a full time contract with hmv?

Yep, 30hrs with the odd paid Sunday added in every few weeks.

How much, if at all, do those of you that use company email/general email communications daily attribute the finer details of people's spelling and grammar towards a picture of their personality that you form in your head? Before meeting them in person.

Just got me thinking. Exchanged a couple of emails with the manager of the place I'm interviewing tomorrow and he's left a good few glaring spelling mistakes in there, including my own name. Then I start overthinking like "yo what if he is a dick?"

It's funny. I'm definitely overthinking. I'm not used to emailing people haha. Just wondering what you guys do.

And cheers for the well wishes, folks. My colleague who wants to see me flourish is running the shop tomorrow and my manager is off, so he's just letting me bugger off to it and he'll manage. Positive vibes tomorrow afternoon, please.

Ffffffffffucccckkk I do not want to make light of that. I'm just srsly overthinking it all due to nerves. Apologies.

I don't do it myself, but I've seen plenty applications rejected because of poor spelling and grammar. My regional manager's a right dick about it.

Which is ironic, as his eyesight is so bad his emails are normally riddled with mistakes.

But it's also the guy who is interviewing Gav, for a job that Gav may want, so he's probably not best to go into it presuming he's a dick based off some spelling mistakes. If the guy is shite in the interview, then fair play. My spelling and grammar has been better than most of the higher-ups I've worked for, but I'd also make an appalling manager.

Outlook auto spell checks before it sends for me so generally I don't have an issue. Assume these people are using gmail or something with no spell check?

afgavinstan wrote:

How much, if at all, do those of you that use company email/general email communications daily attribute the finer details of people's spelling and grammar towards a picture of their personality that you form in your head? Before meeting them in person.

Just got me thinking. Exchanged a couple of emails with the manager of the place I'm interviewing tomorrow and he's left a good few glaring spelling mistakes in there, including my own name. Then I start overthinking like "yo what if he is a dick?"

It's funny. I'm definitely overthinking. I'm not used to emailing people haha. Just wondering what you guys do.

And cheers for the well wishes, folks. My colleague who wants to see me flourish is running the shop tomorrow and my manager is off, so he's just letting me bugger off to it and he'll manage. Positive vibes tomorrow afternoon, please.

cockbeard wrote:

With poprock there

Once I meet someone I'm quite happy for autococko typing to happen, but in formal stuff then yes it gets checked before it gets sent

Agreed. If I'm sending something to someone I've not met before I make sure it's properly proof read. If it's an important email to someone fairly senior I'll even go so far as to have someone else double check it.

I definitely judge someone on the content of their emails.

Email wallpapers do my head in.

Surely that's one of those day one jobs, an email to the design/marketing team, asking for the branding guidelines documentation, then sending it back asking why their pantone colour values are different from their rgb and cmyk values. Then noticing that no-one's email signature is in the correct fonts and the logo that they're all using doesn't have enough whitespace around it