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  • Assuming you were born before 1995, it's a done deal if your dad's a proper South African citizen.  The SA's consular website will have the forms; you'll just need to get a copy of your birth certificate and a copy of your dad's or his SA passport, and send them off.

    By which I mean there's no real way for him to have registered you for dual citizenship at the time; the mere fact that your birth was registered and fits those requirements means you're an SA citizen, you just need to "accept" it and get a passport.
  • Is there anything that can be done about they f-ing PPI/scam calls? We get them daily. I find it quite funny to lead them on and the such although sometimes its just outright annoying and having to listen to the phone ring 10 times before they hang up isnt great.

    Wound one up today until he got so annoyed he hung up on me. He then called me back (whole number was 0501) and said "fuck off arsehole". Which again is kind of funny but then again I wonder why these companies are even allowed to operate in such away.

    Will Virgin care if I phone them up and ask for them to ban those calls? Is it even possible?
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  • You want the Telephone Preference Service.....from their site

    "The Telephone Preference Service (TPS) is a free service. It is the official central opt out register on which you can record your preference not to receive unsolicited sales or marketing calls. It is a legal requirement that all organisations (including charities, voluntary organisations and political parties) do not make such calls to numbers registered on the TPS unless they have your consent to do so."

    http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/index.html

    Edit: Seems to work for me, I get no marketing calls at all.
  • Sign up for this... http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/index.html
    takes care of most spam calls.

    regards

    g.man
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  • I am old and slow.

    :(

    g.man
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  • g.man wrote:
    I am old and slow. :( g.man

    Not at all g. what if three has me on ignore? Then he won't see my post, making yours the defacto answer. So therefore you win.

    (Actually, good point, does all useful information now need to be posted by two separate individuals to avoid potential skim reading and the implementation of an ignore button)?
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    I think we're signed up for the telephone preference service but we still seem to get a lot of bullshit calls anyway. A few do actually come up on 1471, I imagine you could have those blocked.
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  • M0stly harm13ss and g.man, thank you both, and equally.

    kisses.
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  • TPS only applies to UK-based call centres, so you'll still get the calls from more exotic climes telling you that your computer is running slow. Also I think some UK-based call centres can just buy your contact info from companies you have given it to so they'll phone you too. It is a shitness.
  • Any email equivalent? I'm getting them every day. I could just get rid of hotmail I suppose, which is basically a massive spam collection vat.
  • Surely if the company operates in the UK then it doesn't matter where the call centre is based?

    PPI texts really piss me off. And there's no real way to stop those, even if you report it to the concerned agency (some deep dark recess of the OFT I thnk) because they just move on to using a different number.
  • What if the texts don't come from premium rate numbers? I only ever get them from normal mobile numbers and thought that the text STOP thing was fishing for active mobiles. Not that not responding has stopped the texts.
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    Telemarketing confuses me. How do they make revenue? Do a decent amount of people they bother actually get suckered in?
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    Most annoying one I had was some guy asking for a Mr Bollockoff and when I asked what it was regarding (before saying this is he) he said it's none of my business. So I said you can fuck off then.
  • Phone pay plus will help out for any mobile phone issue you have with involving a commercial "service", they're not just their for premium messaging, free commercial SMS and spam comes under their jurisdiction. Just say you are getting spam, it seems fraudulent and you never opted in to the service.
  • What if the texts don't come from premium rate numbers? I only ever get them from normal mobile numbers and thought that the text STOP thing was fishing for active mobiles. Not that not responding has stopped the texts.

    Lifted this from the Information Commissioner's Office

    Text messages about accidents, debt management, PPI and pay day loans

    We are aware that lots of people are receiving unsolicited text messages (SMS) relating to accident claims, debts or mis-sold Payment Protection Insurance (PPI).

    The messages vary in content but will typically say that you are entitled to money because of an accident, debt or mis-sold payment protection insurance. You are then asked to text ‘stop’ or ‘claim’ in response to the text. We are also aware of a new type of unsolicited text message which is directed to an incorrectly named person, for example ‘Hi Shirley, get your £100 - £1000 funds today only. No checks, no fees’ or ‘Hi Tom here’s that site I was telling you about. Made £630 in the last week already’.

    Who is sending the messages?

    We believe the messages are being sent by lead generation companies – companies that are trying to find people who will respond so they can sell those people’s details to claims or debt management firms. The companies behind these messages are looking to earn money by selling these leads.

    Where did they get my details?

    In most cases we believe the companies sending the messages don’t hold any information about you – including whether you have actually had an accident, have debts or PPI – before they send you the message. Many of the people who have told us they are receiving these texts have never provided their mobile phone number to any organisations and have not had a recent accident or had any of the problems referred to in the text message.

    We believe the companies sending the texts are randomly generating mobile telephone numbers and sending several hundreds, or thousands, of texts in the hope that a proportion may reach the mobile phone of someone who has recently had an accident, or been sold a financial product, and who will then reply.

    Are these messages illegal?

    The messages appear to breach the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations because they are being sent to individuals without prior consent and without identifying the sender. The messages also appear to breach other legislation and codes of practice.

    What should I do?

    The law says that any organisation looking to offer this kind of service must identify themselves when they contact you. The companies sending these messages are therefore breaking the law and we would therefore advise that you do not reply to these messages.

    How can I stop receiving messages from these organisations?

    You can report them to your network operator, who may be able to prevent further spam from the originating number. Unfortunately as the numbers often change, your network provider cannot guarantee to stop all unsolicited messages. You can either contact your network operator’s customer services, or forward spam text messages to 7726 (SPAM).

    What is the ICO doing about this?

    We are tackling this problem in three ways:
    [ol][li]Working closely with other regulators and industry bodies to try to identify the companies responsible for these messages and put an end to any illegal practices.[/li][li]Educating and warning the public about the problem to stop people being able to make money from this practice.[/li][li]Educating organisations about the risks of accepting leads generated through spam texts.[/li][/ol]
    Do you need me to complain to the ICO to help with your investigation?

    If you have received one of these text messages but have not responded, then we do not need you to complain to us. We have a large amount of evidence to support our investigation and we will provide updates on our website as this progresses.
     
    If you have responded, and have evidence that suggests your details have been passed on to one of these claims companies, please call our Helpline on 0303 123 1113. We would be particularly interested to discuss your case and we will tell you if we need you to send us more details.
  • Bollockoff wrote:
    Telemarketing confuses me. How do they make revenue? Do a decent amount of people they bother actually get suckered in?

    You do get a surprising turn around from SMS marketing and/or spamming.
  • Its all about the data. Most of the reasons you are called is to find out more about you. this information can be sold on to other companies that will then call you and try to sell you stuff.  It cuts down on the number of calls that have to be made to make a sale. 
    You can buy lists of people that fit into a certain demographic that you want to target.  
    All these free competitions on Facebook? If you enter there is a chance the company will mine your details and hold on to it later on to sell back to you in terms of offers. 
    The telephone way is more haphazard and isn't as successful. You generally will be called from abroad to avoid the TPS. The law covers where the activity comes from, and usually the telemarketing is outsourced so it's difficult to complain about the company. The onus is then on the call centre that doesn;t care because the laws don't apply to it.   Its usually for PPI claims, insurance claims, stuff like that where the leads themselves are worth quite a bit of money.
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    Do something worth while Interpol and catch some telemarketers.
  • Too busy running their one good record into the ground.
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    Need to make a film about a rogue English Interpol agent taking down Indian call centres.
  • Bollockoff wrote:
    Most annoying one I had was some guy asking for a Mr Bollockoff and when I asked what it was regarding (before saying this is he) he said it's none of my business. So I said you can fuck off then.
    When I phone people from work, it shows up as a blocked number.  I've had many a person answer and assume, from the off, that I'm telesales.  After I've explained who they've just directed their foul language towards, I like to think they'll be less abusive to telesales employees in future.
  • Cheers harmless, those were the people I was thinking of. I never get two texts from the same number but may forward them on from now on.
  • For the last 2 days I've been able to smell cigarette smoke wherever I've gone.
    At home, on the train, at work. Didn't think much of it, but it's starting to get annoying now. I don't smoke, so it's not attached to me, any ideas?
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  • A google search of "why can i smell cigarette smoke all the time" reveals it's a more common complaint than you'd think.

    regards

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  • You're right, bizarre.
    Still not quite sure if it's something I should worry about though.
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  • No. No-one seems to have a definitive answer.

    regards

    g.man
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  • Ask your doctor, sas.

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