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Webbins

Inspired by, not about... I think. Although she's from Lincolnshire so who knows.

Paul the sparky

I thought I heard her say it was about him and she sang it at his funeral?

I should really pay more/less attention to the X Factor.

retro74

When it came on at the weekend I said to the wife that it's funny how they go on about the unbelievably high standard but in reality all of the winners (maybe with one exception) are complete non-entities

I then challenged myself to name all the winners in order and to my shame I managed it. The wife was quite impressed though

Sasukekun

The winners don't really go on to achieve anything though do they? It's generally the also rans that go onto bigger things.
Aside from Leona Lewis, who still isn't exactly a megastar despite Cowell constantly insisting she is, none of the winners have done anything.

Olimite

That's normally down to the idiotic general public picking the wrong act as winner. Only in a handful of cases have they picked the right one.

Rev

https://www.facebook.com/paul.n.ellard?ref=ts
Here is the guy from my neck of the woods that insults Tulisa. For anyone that cares.Â

He thinks any publicity is good publicity.. He deserves to win, but didn't get through.Â

He isn't on my friend's list btw.

Moto70

Sasukekun wrote:

The winners don't really go on to achieve anything though do they? It's generally the also rans that go onto bigger things. Aside from Leona Lewis, who still isn't exactly a megastar despite Cowell constantly insisting she is, none of the winners have done anything.

What about... erm... yeah, you're right.

[Deleted User]

Will Young did O.K. Was he on Â X Factor or was it one of the other shows that are the same thing?

The problem to me seems to be they build up massive amounts of hype over this person, get an xmas number 1 then you don't hear from them for 10 months, by that point the fickle x-factor single buyer has moved on.

MattyJ

It's the system they are a part of. They release a song at Christmas, then nothing until the new series of X Factor starts. They need to come out and release another song and keep the PR train going rather than disappearing for 9 months.

mk64

he was pop idol. but agreed he did well.

The most sucessful has been leona/1D and alexandra burke.. I presume because those three "cracked" america.

RamSteelwood

i thought this place was above the x-factor...

Rev

No. This thread should include all shit reality TV that we are forced to watch or secretly watch and love.

retro74

mk64 wrote:

he was pop idol. but agreed he did well.

The most sucessful has been leona/1D and alexandra burke.. I presume because those three "cracked" america.

JLS have done well commercially also

mk64

true

fullspectrum

I hope this series tanks. Give proper musicians a chance.

Paul the sparky

Proper musicians have as good a chance now as they ever had. If they're good they'll be successful, if they're shite they won't. That was true before the X Factor, it's true during its stint on tv, and it will be true long after Simon Cowell is in his grave.

Sasukekun

I'd like to see the format tweaked slightly and used to find new comedians.
I know there was a Jason Manford fronted show that tried it, but it was based around 'challenges' and other such gumpf, the whole idea didn't flow well. I tried watching it once, it was awful.

Moto70

I didn't think JLS won?

Gremill

Olimite wrote:

That's normally down to the acts all being utter, forgettable, beige-wallpaper in a blood a flesh meat-puppet sock pish.

I'm pretty sure that's what you meant.

retro74

Moto70 wrote:

I didn't think JLS won?

No they didn't, neither did One Direction. First band to win were Little Mix

Sasukekun

And that, gentlemen, is how music died

Rev

The guys that come second appear to do better than those that one it.Â

Rebecca Ferguson's album is rather very good and listenable.

adored

Surely Girls Aloud are the most successful entity to have emerged from any of these shows.

Anyway, haven't watched any of the X Factor this year and don't intend to, not even the initial spazditions.

Carry on.

And what Gremill said.

[Deleted User]

What about...

Sasukekun

Or

fullspectrum

Paul the sparky wrote:

Proper musicians have as good a chance now as they ever had. If they're good they'll be successful, if they're shite they won't. That was true before the X Factor, it's true during its stint on tv, and it will be true long after Simon Cowell is in his grave.

I'll have to disagree with you if you don't think shows like this are bad for the music industry. Take away huge slices of force-fed popular music and there's a lot more room for everyone else to maneuver.

mk64

depends how you measure sucess, pussy cat dolls are probably the richest albeit from this type of competition, or kelly clarkson.

[Deleted User]

I imagine that the winners of the American shows would easily go on to make a lot more money than the U.K shows, just because of sheer population. Would be harder to get to being the winner though for the same reasons.

fullspectrum

I have no facts to back up my sentiment, I really do hate everything these shows stand for though.

Carbon_Altered

Nick wrote:

Proper musicians have as good a chance now as they ever had. If they're good they'll be successful, if they're shite they won't. That was true before the X Factor, it's true during its stint on tv, and it will be true long after Simon Cowell is in his grave.

I'll have to disagree with you if you don't think shows like this are bad for the music industry. Take away huge slices of force-fed popular music and there's a lot more room for everyone else to maneuver.

They'll always be "popular" music by definition. They'll also always be people that don't like popular music just because it is popular.

And I don't get the "force-fed" argument either. You're not forced to watch X-Factor or listen to radio one. In this age more than any you have so much choice given the multitide of avenues through which you can access content.

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