bad_hair_day wrote:

The nearest sun to us has 'Goldilock' planets around it and that's just forty years travel based on our best propulsion.

Forty years? You sure? I presume you’re talking about Alpha Centauri, which is over 4 light-years away. Are you saying that we can currently travel at 1/10th the speed of light?

@hair - as you obviously enjoy all this, I'd absolutely recommend John Keel's Mothman Prophecies for your holiday reading. It's absolutely nothing like the film and is full of contactees, ufos, voices from Sirius etc. It's a fantastic psychedelic read.

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It’s not unproven technology, it’s entirely theoretical technology. Alpha Centauri is not 40 years away yet.

This is rapidly becoming my favourite thread. Shine on, you crazy diamonds.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion

Reports of strange unidentified lights in the sky over Milton Keynes on Saturday. I have a feeling the Rammstein concert might have had something to do with it.

I've just found as many conspiracy videos as I can and commented ....

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I went in a group of ten.
I was the most enthusiastic but after a few tracks everyone was full into it, the rest of the group are now gunning for tickets to their 2020 tour.

The crowd was a mix of people like my lot, full metal heads and Rammstein nuts. Loads of Europeans, I had a Bulgarian complement me on my German. Chatted to a Finnish girl and her English fella, they were some Spanish and Portugese people near us as well.

Rammstein put on one hell of a show, whether you’re into the music or not. Weren’t they all originally a bunch of stage tech, pyro and stage effects specialists who decided to start their own band for laughs?

I remember when they played a venue run by a mate of mine years and years back, and they showed me a copy of the health and safety checklist for the gig. It was the size of a fucking phone book.

Woah this thread has certainly taken off eh?????
Regarding Bob Lazar. I tried watching the doc on Netflix but turned it off after 10 minutes. Micky Rourke mumbling incoherently about some shit or other and the stupid editing made it totally unwatchable for me.
Luckily the next day Bob and the docu guy were on Joe Rogan. The docu guy was a moron IMO, I loved when Joe kept shutting him up and going back to Bob. 
I had been vaguely aware of Mr Lazar and from the podcast at least I tend to find him credible. I'm NOT saying I believe him but he does put forward a fairly plausible story. This was all pre-internet days, much easier for the powers that be to erase someone's academic record etc. Sounds very likely the US would want to keep the fact that they cannot figure out advanced "alien" tech secret.

IMO there IS life out in the universe. I'm certain. Knowing now that so many stars have planets and given the number of stars, there has to be something else out there. 
All the derision and hostility by "proper scientists" of those excited by aliens etc is baffling. Look at Boyajin's(apologies on the spelling) star for example. How many kid's imaginations has that stoked? Possibly putting them on a path to become scientists one day. Thats gold!!! We need more stuff like this to get talked about not scoffed at, shut down and pissed on by mainstream scientists. Does it not encourage people to learn more? Places like the subreddit are alive with analysis. (and sulking scientists anytime anyone even hints at aliens or Dyson spheres). 

Us earthlings know relatively little about anything. To say it's impossible for us to be visited by aliens is silly. Massively improbable sure, but we don't know enough to say impossible.
Ditto with the search for possible exoplanets that might harbour life, our frame of reference is too small. We know of only one planet that supports life and so we pay special attention to a small subset of exoplanets. 
I believe the same applies to the great silence. Could be the whole galaxy is alive with alien communication and travel networks. But we can't detect any traces. Like a caveman trying to detect radio signals.  He cant hear, see or feel them or their effects in any way and cannot bash them with his club. Doesn't mean the signals don't exist.

dynamiteReady wrote:

I go through phases, but generally now err the side of scepticism, because, being churlish about it, if we have encountered an alien race with technology and wisdom way beyond our own, you'd expect we'd be cattle by now.

But then perhaps we already are...

Or they could be from Vegan (grey, skinny things with massive heeds)

So which of you have booked flights?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/17/joke-facebook-page-storm-area-51-viral-million-people-rsvp-military-serious-response

GooberTheHat wrote:

I think we might find evidence that there was (basic) life on mars in the past, but not any now.

For me, the methane thing sounds really strange, but it's said that could be explained by chemistry.

The rover team suggest they don't know where the methane is coming from, but until they can confirm the possible source of the methane with physical evidence, then I wouldn't want to bet against there being life on the planet...

Exciting times, if you're into that kind of thing. :]

They're apparently planning on sending another rover up in almost exactly a year's time.

Hey Dino, yeah please pop up (any interesting) on the dropbox.
That would be cool!