ZINGER.

Another USS Nimitz crew member account. Don't know if anyone here is watching these videos I'm posting, but the accounts are compelling.

Djornson wrote:

People find out that a memory they hold is incorrect, for example, a line in a film they've watched many times, they discover other people that misremember in the same way, they find that weird and interesting. That's literally all the Mandella Effect is, a commonly held false memory.

Let’s take a quoted example. “Luke, I am your father,” versus, “No, I am your father.” The difference is pretty insignificant, it certainly doesn’t affect the meaning of the line. The first word isn’t the bit that has impact, it’s what follows. The first one is more likely to stick in the mind if one hears it recounted that way, because it is another marker that helps identify the reference. I honestly think that it’s totally misplaced to suggest that people remember the wrong line from watching the film. They remember the wrong line from hearing the wrong line. It’s not a shared false memory, it’s just shared misinformation.

If there was a shared false memory like, say, a bunch of people remembering that there was a scene in Empire Strikes Back where Chewbacca died his fur purple, that would be interesting.

The closest example I’ve read is that a bunch of people thought they remembered a film called Shazam where Sinbad played a genie. No such film exists. However, it then transpires that Sinbad was in an advert or episode of a TV show where he was dressed in an outfit very similar to a genie, and there is a film called Kazam, where Shaqil O’Neill played a genie. Here’s the thing; I don’t for one minute believe that lots of people imagined for themselves that they saw a film called Shazam where Sinbad played a genie. What I do believe is that, when asked if they remembered a film called Shazam where Sinbad played a genie, their brains conflated two very hazy memories. Again, it’s not a shared false memory, it’s misinformation.

If I read a genuine example of a false memory that a significant number of people have formed independent of each other, I’ll sit up and listen. Until then, I just don’t recognise it as a thing, let alone an interesting or weird thing.

But how old were the respondents?

*shrug* fair enough.

bad_hair_day wrote:

let's say plausible

I don’t find them plausible.

Because the alternative suggestions of faulty equipment sexed up by alien fans immediately strikes me as by far the most likely explanation. No eyewitness accounts will shift that.

dynamiteReady wrote:

Clearly, the navy itself, as an organisation concedes that it's stumped here. Not the individuals themselves.

Is there an official statement from the navy saying this (preferably not one sourced from RT)?

It's a UFO by definition, after all...

Not if it’s a technology glitch it’s not, then it’s not even an O, let alone F.

That statement could be read as the navy not wanting to reveal what these are rather than them not knowing what they are.

I started watching that one, but it seems he’s a witness to watching a video?

If I’m going to watch one of these, which should it be?

To support the incident, Kevin Day, the radar operative in contact with Cmdr Fravor goes into great detail in this interview. Their state of the art equipment was working fine.

Edit: Shenanigans with optical voice com recordings and the Air Force confiscating the 'Hawkeye' radar plane HDD's...



Part 2

Very.

When I've discussed this account, a few people just dismiss it out of hand which is incredibly short sighted. 'Show me scientific evidence' is a legit comment, except these things can't be studied in a controlled environment because of their sporadic and elusive nature.
That, and it scares them - a reasonable response to tech that is far beyond known limits flying around with impunity.


Anyway, judge for yourselves

That's showbiz! (Jazz hands)

No sonic boom so that's fucky for starters.

Interestingly, at 1:34:00 in, dude himself actually mentions thrust vectoring as being a way to do some unconventional shit, but he is quite convincing to listen to.

The guy with the beard though? He really does sound like he needs a new tinfoil hat at times.
But this is a really a question of whether you believe Favors. Which I think I do.

And he's suggesting this is all a regular part of Naval culture, and that there are other stories out there. The way he frames it too, is interesting.

Like, yes, the navy logs this, there are some freaked out soldiers out there, and yes, some of this is in the public domain.

That's quite apart from the years of absolute denials we've had.

Exercise names and the ordnance he has equipped are easy things to get right. What he saw is the kind of thing, though, where his brain will fill in detail over time, based on factors not available to him at the time.