adkm1979 wrote:

Tempy wrote:

I've played about 8-12 hours of XCOM now and I wouldn't even be happy to pass cursory judgement on it.

That's a pretty daft thing to say, Tempy.

No it isn't, I hadn't seen enough of the game. It's not a short campaign, it's only just started to get its hooks in me today as there is a fair amount of tactical depth.

Who gives a fuck how similar it is or not to such an old game? They're both good in their own right.

That's bananas. 10 Hours is enough time to decide whether you think a game is decent or not.

If the X-Com remake was like comparing Mario 64 to Mario Bros, I would agree.

However the X-Com remake is actually like taking Mario 64 and 18 years later releasing Mario Bros.

The original is 3 quid on steam, seriously, if you have never played it, go and play it. X-Com is a good game, but to say it's GOTY is a pretty damning indictment on this years crop of games.

To both of you

Roujin wrote:

If the X-Com remake was like comparing Mario 64 to Mario Bros, I would agree. However the X-Com remake is actually like taking Mario 64 and 18 years later releasing Mario Bros. The original is 3 quid on steam, seriously, if you have never played it, go and play it. X-Com is a good game, but to say it's GOTY is a pretty damning indictment on this years crop of games.

Crazy. How do comparisons to the old one have anyhing to do with how people rate XCOM against the rest of this year's releases.

You prefer the original.. play that then. Your liking it has no bearing on how good this new XCOM game is, which as far as I'm aware you haven't played.

Tempy, if you said that you wouldn't be comfortable reviewing it or putting it in a top 5, that's one thing.  However, your claim that you, "wouldn't even be happy to pass cursory judgement on it," is daft, there's no two ways about it.

Tempy, mate, I'm sorry but that doesn't wash.  I get the point you're trying to make, but stop.

Edited for repeating myself.

It takes a while to click adkm. I didn't get it for the first 5 tries. Bear in mind that every move you make affects overall progress which can be lost at any point. In a 20 hour campaign, you might have to restart 15 hours in. That's the nature of it. It's highly rewarding in the long run, but has many sticking points for the uninitiated, or those of us like me that havn't played an xcom game since I was 10, or whatever.

Sure, you can get an understanding of it thrashing around guessing at stuff, but till you contiously know the ramifications of the big decisions you have to make I can understand the right to reserve judgement.

I'm not angry, other than being a bit annoyed that I'm being told what I can and can't think. You're clearly focusing too deeply on my use of the word 'cursory' which I probably shouldn't have used in the context that I was quoting Oli with. If that word was removed would you be happy enough?

Edit: because I can see how using that in the most exact sense would be incorrect.

Well that does sort of define the whole thing you were talking about. Otherwise its just judgement which implies finality and the meaning is completely changed.
Edit: Beaten to it.

Throw a strop if you like, Tempy, but in a place where we discuss things with the written words alone, it's important to get them right.  You're not in the way of 'lazily' throwing in the first word that completely changes the point you're making.

I am when I'm on a bus with poor signal on my way to Uni. You could, after my explanation, have maybe understood where I was getting from instead of homing in on one ill used word, but you didn't.

Dick measuring?


*runs away*

The forum is my GOTY