That's why I put it in my list.

"Don't be a fool, Marshall!"

Blood I actually thought about but I only ever played the demo so it didn't seem right. I did play that demo a lot though.

That's another one where I think I love the demo more than the actual game. Demo was the fifth level and you had to sneak onto an Imperial starship that was getting refuelled or something.

I played that so much before getting the actual game. Think the cheats actually worked on the demo as well so I could run around with all the force powers and all the weapons. It was great fun.

Portal doesn't count. Might as well try to argue Wing Commander counts.

1. Americas Army (PC, 2002)
6v6 objective based, no campaign, no respawns, no perks, no customisation, no fucking about. The most perfect teamwork FPS I have ever played.

2. Battlefield 2 (PC, 2005)
Again another FPS that didn't need a multitude of modes, it had just one type of gameplay and was all the better for it.

3. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (360, 2007)
The game that everybody thinks of when the acronym FPS is mentioned. For me this game emcompasses everything that is good and bad about FPS's.

In no particular order of preference.

Goldeneye 007 (N64, 1997)

Delta Force (PC, 1998)

Ghost Recon (PC, 2001)

Delta Force: Black Hawk Down (PC, 2003)

SWAT 4 (PC, 2005)

Borderlands 2 (360, 2012)

Far Cry 3 (360, 2012)

Portal is so different to virtually all the games mentioned here that to compare them is just pointless.

It's a puzzle game.

Hodge360 wrote:

ODST was crap. Found it really boring.  Anyway,I'll probably not submit a list but wondered were there any plans to compile a B&B list based on the lists people give?

We already have the perfect list, it's 3 posts above yours if you're looking for it!

WorKid wrote:

Portal is so different to virtually all the games mentioned here that to compare them is just pointless. It's a puzzle game.

Finally. 


No, I can't.

To a certain extent I'm playing Devil's advocate and your argument has merit. I guess that the point I'm trying to make is that the FP portions of FPS are sometimes divorced from the S. I personally feel that a FPS had to tick all 3 boxes to be considered as one. 

It's the S that's the issue; for me at least. A perspective can't define an entire genre.

(this flies in the face of me saying it had to involve attacking enemies with projectiles and then being reminded that you could do this very thing in Portals. Error, but I stand fast on my general sentiment.)

Dante's decision leapfrogging off the OXM list. Plus it applies at least some level on consistency, i.e. you could go and play these games now.

Really? First person shooters have never been the most innovative of genres to start with.

Yes a genre that doesn't include Portal. It's not a FPS!

Brooks wrote:

Frosty wrote:

Oh, it's restricted to current generation fps games. What's the reason for this?

Oh lol, I misread. Explains why no-one else's lists seemed to feature pre-00s titles.

I forgot with Prime, but no other titles, which I am a fud for.

metagonzo wrote:

It's the S that's the issue; for me at least. A perspective can't define an entire genre.

Yeah, a genre is more defined by the predominant type of action the player is tested on. Anything called a shooter should first and foremost involve trying to shoot things, with the challenge coming from aiming at and hitting particular points onscreen.

The use of first person perspective meanwhile is a design choice that determines how the action will be framed, not a genre, with each different choice having its own strengths and weaknesses. First person goes with shooting so well because it's the only perspective where you're looking right down the line of sight, making the accuracy part of the game even more nuanced and user controllable.

Personally I'm not sure it has any other advantages, which is why I find it odd for non-shooting oriented games to use it.

I certainly prefer to play racing and flying games in first person.

Mod74 wrote:

Dante's decision leapfrogging off the OXM list. Plus it applies at least some level on consistency, i.e. you could go and play these games now.

You can play mine now, they're from the past and present not the future!

I was another one who didn't read the criteria, though a list of FPS's being confided to this gen misses out on so many good titles.

 

Hodge360 wrote:

You think Modern Warfare is the best COD!!

I think it was a defining title that no list about FPS's shouldn't feature. It's certainly not the best FPS or even the best CoD but it did a lot of things right and set the foundations for the current flavour...

Hodge360 wrote:

Hmm,you can only have one game from a series in your top ten but you don't pick the best of the series?

He did, COD 4.