PC gaming. - The Bear and Badger

isanbard

I've found the Windows Gamepass quite often more in the beta range than you'd hope for..

Fairly often it just says I don't have access to any of the games I've downloaded or bought like moran Forza Horizon par example.
If I sign out and sign in again it tends to kick it up the arse for a while and make it all work again. For a bit...

SpaceGazelle

Jimmy The Lips wrote:

Nope, system is fine, weirdly if I turn off any networking it works... not sure what that’s about?

Welcome to PC gaming. It's trying to cater for a million different system permutations and something somewhere is going to go wrong. It's the way it is and you'll probably have to find some forums, ask some questions and try a few things, but it will be resolved if you have the time.

The pros outweigh the cons though, and what you don't get in reliability is paid in spades elsewhere. PC gaming is proper ace. Make Steam a priority though. It's messy, bloated and absolutely great.

GurtTractor

PC gaming is mostly fine honestly, it's Microsoft that's the fucker.

SpaceGazelle

GurtTractor wrote:

PC gaming is mostly fine honestly, it's Microsoft that's the fucker.

Swings and roundabouts. Yes to Linux but they're no Oculus either, and they've arguably done more for PC than anyone. I'm not sure PC can be tamed tbh but agree it's good to be vigilant.

Subbax

I'm going to chuck in here that the GoG beta launcher is legit. Looks so nice and it hooks into most of the other launchers but there's so many these days.

New Steam launch is a lot better than the old. Now all my installed games are nicely grouped.

regmcfly

Yeah, Gog Galaxy has been a cracker.

acemuzzy

It suddenly lost track of my installs though, which is frustrating

GooberTheHat

GoG launcher won't pick up my steam games. How do I make it?

Jimmy The Lips

Subbax wrote:

I'm going to chuck in here that the GoG beta launcher is legit. Looks so nice and it hooks into most of the other launchers but there's so many these days. New Steam launch is a lot better than the old. Now all my installed games are nicely grouped.

Genius! Just installed it, great shout!!!

regmcfly

GooberTheHat wrote:

GoG launcher won't pick up my steam games. How do I make it?

I just linked my account and they show up

Speedhaak

That's the only downside to PC gaming, all the bloody launchers and service exclusive games. Some times it's hard to just browse for games as so many are locked behind different platforms.

Dark Soldier

I just have the shortcuts in a folder on my desktop, never need to look at launchers unless I'm installing.

Jimmy The Lips

do all the launchers need to be open and active in my sys tray area? I've got 8 sat consuming memory but if GoG does the lot can I bin off all the others?

Facewon

Gonna say no. I only have have steam and Xbox beta installed at the moment, and have both set to not launch on start up. Works fine.

regmcfly

Jimmy The Lips wrote:

do all the launchers need to be open and active in my sys tray area? I've got 8 sat consuming memory but if GoG does the lot can I bin off all the others?

Correct.

Facewon

Ffs. No to first q, yes to second. To be clear.

Dark Soldier

Facewon wrote:

Gonna say no. I only have have steam and Xbox beta installed at the moment, and have both set to not launch on start up. Works fine.

Aye I only launch Steam. Rest can open when I wanna play something.

Speedhaak

Wondering if I should enable or disable Smart Fan for the new rig? It was on by default for the CPU but off for system fans. CPU temps went up to 82 degrees playing Doom with Smart Fan on.

Any thoughts? Can't seem to find any good reading material for this topic online.

GurtTractor

I'm guessing that smart fan just the motherboard fan control. It will probably just be some preset curves, that may or may not take your hardware into account. Just run HWiNFO sensors and right click to bring up graphs, run a few stress tests, play some games, and manually adjust some curves as you see fit. I tend to keep my fans near minimum RPM during idle temps, then ramp up sharply for when it's needed. Automatic or preset fan curves will never be ideal for your specific config.

Speedhaak

It's motherboard yesa but can also be modified with MSI Command Centre. As far as I understand Smart Fan adjust fan speeds pending CPU and System heat so it scales. With Smart Fans on now the CPU is running at 53 degrees idle and the system temperature is around 29 degrees.

Speedhaak

Actually a correction on that, CPU seems to be fluctuating from 38-55 randomly.

GurtTractor

Yep, just a fan RPM/CPU temp curve thing. I would just tweak the curves manually to get a good balance between noise and temperature, then if I were you I would take some pictures of the curves and enter them into the actual BIOS version of the smart fan control. Just because these motherboard control programs tend to break during Windows updates, and generally add processing and startup bloat that isn't necessary.

Ryzen and most modern CPUs will tend to fluctuate like that, it's normal. Probably spiking up and down when due to the temp monitoring that will tick every few seconds.

Just use the PC normally and adjust things every so often to gradually dial in the optimal curves. As with most modern processors they can get quite hot without any damage, because they will automatically throttle a little to manage the load. 82 degrees is fine really, the clockspeed will just be a little bit down compared to if you had it sitting at around 60 degrees. I would just keep things below 90, or 85 to give you a bit of a buffer. Also keep in mind that it can take a while for the whole system to warm up when it's under sustained load, like 15-20 minutes or more.

Speedhaak

Yeah thanks for the info, came up with my own profile there and set a few thresholds for fan uptake. Removed the bloatware and just did it in the bios.

Also, installed Doom. I also bought a set of wireless headphones today. Really want to try and reduce the mess around my setup. Went for Steelseries Arctis 7's. Have Dolby Atmos Surround installed as well. As you can imagine Doom sounds glorious.

It's also my first time being able to experience what is arguably a stable of PC gaming in all it's glory. 70+ fps on ultra, yummy. Although I must admit I'm not really noticing 1440p but I suspect that's due to the 32" monitor. Bit too much real estate for that resolution.

Facewon

Humble list available:

Frost Punk (and a DLC)
Pathfinder Kingmaker
Eliza
Cryofall
Shenzen I/O
The Hex
Warstone TD
Nightcall.

(Great month btw, I claimed for myself: Okami HD, Book of Demons, Underhero, and Project Warlock.)

AndCallMeCharlie

Frost punk for me if it’s going

acemuzzy

Frostpunk is on GP, so Eliza and Shenzen were the two that I had my eye. So if nobody else is keen...

Jimmy The Lips

Had some issues this weekend with games crashing or not starting or things getting very stuttery for long periods.... turns out I had a memory issue where old stuff wasn't being removed from active memory. Now started using a tool "intelligent standby list cleaner" and everything even better than before... whats going to be next issue and what tools do people run to get a smooth and seamless experience?

on a side note, I would suggest everyone look at the intelligent cleaner thingy as its made life much better... until the next issue..

Facewon

I shall send codes later today. Word.

Facewon

Codes sent to charlie and ace.

Facewon

Jimmy The Lips wrote:

Had some issues this weekend with games crashing or not starting or things getting very stuttery for long periods.... turns out I had a memory issue where old stuff wasn't being removed from active memory. Now started using a tool "intelligent standby list cleaner" and everything even better than before... whats going to be next issue and what tools do people run to get a smooth and seamless experience? on a side note, I would suggest everyone look at the intelligent cleaner thingy as its made life much better... until the next issue..

Some interesting links when you search for that. Some very mixed reviews. I'ma let you be the guinea pig for a bit longer before I think about it.

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