Yossarian wrote:Corbyn’s said he’ll back a second vote if, or rather when, the members vote for it.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-back-second-referendum-13292683
Yossarian wrote:Corbyn’s said he’ll back a second vote if, or rather when, the members vote for it.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-back-second-referendum-13292683
I_R wrote:It's already too late unless the government ask the EU to postpone us leaving.
This is going to be wrapped up in some weird motion with a load of other stuff thrown in apparently. Members won't get to vote yay or nay on a 2nd referendum. They'll get to vote on whether Labour should pursue a general election (which seems a pointless thing to have a vote on) with a second referendum as a back up choice if they can't get that. JC is still going to be able to come out the other side of this without having to campaign for Britain to stay in the EU, or to revisit the vote that took us out.acemuzzy wrote:That's pretty hugeCorbyn’s said he’ll back a second vote if, or rather when, the members vote for it. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-back-second-referendum-13292683
Yossarian wrote:I have no clue how a general election is supposed to resolve this issue. Labour’s position on Brexit is ‘we will negotiate a better deal’ which is pretty meaningless all told, especially with no time left to negotiate anything.
They're two different things though. So I don't get what they think they're doing. Or what they want people to think they're doing.Yossarian wrote:They’re saying that they would rather have a general election than a second vote, so if they get an election, there’ll be no need for a second vote.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/sep/23/labour-conference-liverpool-jeremy-corbyn-say-he-will-accept-any-labour-conference-decision-on-second-brexit-referendum-politics-liveHe said:
The referendum shouldn’t be on do ‘we want to go back into the European Union’.
So staying in the EU shouldn’t even be an option, he was asked. McCluskey replied:
No, because the people have already decided on that. We very rarely have referendums in this country. The people have decided, against my wishes and my union’s wishes, but they’ve decided ...
Here’s one of the problems Labour have; there are significant numbers of traditional Labour supporters who are saying we’re going to vote Conservative because we don’t trust Labour to take us out of the European Union despite the fact that Jeremy has said repeatedly, ‘Of course we recognise the result of course we respect the result, we’re coming out of the European Union.’ For us to now enter some kind of campaign that opens up that issue again I think would be wrong.
The reason they want a general election is so that "Labour are in charge of negotiating the UKs relationship with Europe”. Whatever that means.monkey wrote:They're two different things though. So I don't get what they think they're doing. Or what they want people to think they're doing.Yossarian wrote:They’re saying that they would rather have a general election than a second vote, so if they get an election, there’ll be no need for a second vote.
regmcfly wrote:Bottom line, labour go into an election with a let's do another referendum policy, they get a vote from me. They don't, and they don't.
https://twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/1044146195868704770?s=21New Labour policy.
Labour MPs will vote down May deal, cos it fails six tests, push for GE, fail to get one, and then campaign for a public vote in which the choice is solely between the May deal that Labour has already rejected and no deal/Armageddon.
What an offer.
Quizzed about what options should be part of a second referendum question, he said: “My view at the moment is that parliament will decide what will be on that ballot paper. We’ll be arguing that it should be a vote on the deal itself, and then enable us to go back and do the negotiations.”
Pressed on whether this definitely meant ruling out a “remain” option, McDonnell declined to fully clarify, but indicated again this was the case: “We’re respecting the referendum. We want a general election, If we can’t get that we’ll have a people’s vote. The people’s vote will be on the deal itself and whether we can negotiate a better one.”
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