Andy wrote:Armitage_Shankburn wrote:Capisce?
I don’t know what you think you’re achieving with this, but if it’s anything other than trying to look like a total fanny, it’s failing.
Armitage_Shankburn wrote:All remainers have to examine themselves over this latest turn. This fetishizing of the EU is nonsense, it did not exist before the referendum and it should not exist now. We live in a country, one country. If you've had it sweet for years with a nice job and hols with the family, home ownership creating money out of thin air and a tax free isa, and you're worried that your niece Polly can't go work in Europe for a year and your house prices will go down so let's remain at any cost, you're being a fucking tit. You've not heeded the wake up call the referendum result was. We have a chance to heal the country, let's take it, instead of burying our head in the sand and hoping this all goes away.
Yossarian wrote:Armitage_Shankburn wrote:All remainers have to examine themselves [...] If you've had it sweet for years with a nice job and hols with the family, home ownership creating money out of thin air and a tax free isa.
That’s far from all remainers.
monkey wrote:Revoking article 50 is the right move at an election but ONLY combined with the required economic and public service reforms that drove the discontent in the first place. Lib Dems aren’t going to give you that, especially with all those Tory votes up for grabs.
Armitage_Shankburn wrote:I agree, but increasingly suspect that it will take years of redressing the balance to win over the north, Welsh valleys etc.Revoking article 50 is the right move at an election but ONLY combined with the required economic and public service reforms that drove the discontent in the first place. Lib Dems aren’t going to give you that, especially with all those Tory votes up for grabs.
The latter. Brexit referendum has been a conduit to unprecedented otherisation, hence my deriding the EU flag waving Europeans who popped up after the referendum.Lord_Griff wrote:Is it the tabloids fault, or is it just human nature to blame everything shitty on minority/different groups?
Lord_Griff wrote:Is it the tabloids fault, or is it just human nature to blame everything shitty on minority/different groups?
Armitage_Shankburn wrote:The latter. Brexit referendum has been a conduit to unprecedented otherisation, hence my deriding the EU flag waving Europeans who popped up after the referendum.Lord_Griff wrote:Is it the tabloids fault, or is it just human nature to blame everything shitty on minority/different groups?
acemuzzy wrote:So the government has, in court, given up any pretense that it was a normal prorogation, or that BoJo didn't lie to the queen. Solely arguing it's legit to prorogue for purely political means. I mean we kinda knew that's what they were doing, but they're now basically admitting they openly lied about it...
Yossarian wrote:
Diluted Dante wrote:They already have.
Laura Kuenssberg also posted "Turns out the man who challenged the PM is also a Labour activist", as if it's at all relevant.
Tempy wrote:The audacity of the man to have planned all this for a press stunt.
Yossarian wrote:Diluted Dante wrote:They already have.
Laura Kuenssberg also posted "Turns out the man who challenged the PM is also a Labour activist", as if it's at all relevant.
Not just Kuenssberg:
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1174320861349892096
Armitage_Shankburn wrote:Yossarian wrote:Not just Kuenssberg: https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1174320861349892096Diluted Dante wrote:They already have. Laura Kuenssberg also posted "Turns out the man who challenged the PM is also a Labour activist", as if it's at all relevant.Spoiler:
Tempy wrote:I feel like you've missed the point of this story Liv, it's that "labour man bad"
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