Bollockoff wrote:

Jesus christ this bit with the drill is just annoying.

It seems like it's designed best with a co-op partner but it's a little overwhelming on your own.

I completely agree, you could see how it was set up to be tackled in two players. I just found the extra enemies to be bloody annoying.

I also agree with the fact that the human enemies were shit (as mentioned by someone previously).

However, on the whole, I quite liked it.

Shit thing to put in the demo really.

Or just don't use them?

I am not sure this IP needed another game this gen.
I really enjoyed the first two but the demo of this left me a little cold.
Visually very nice but as Gunn mentioned all the atmosphere has been drained away by the open environments and the NPCs. As others have said also, the human combat was pants and the cover just plain didn't work for me at all.
The weapon mods system sounds like a good idea but the machine tool qualities of the guns made the previous games for me, and having some machine gun, force punch melee rifle doesn't really appeal. 
I am being a bit harsh after only playing a demo but I predict a competent but ultimately misguided addition to the franchise.

Ha

M8 u know Tempy coop is da shiz

It is, yes. I don't think it'll be as gamebreakingly awful as everyone suggests it will be, and I liked the demo. I understand the first was a stone cold brilliant horror game, but the second started an evolution to action that the third continues. It's like the Resi series, what do people expect? It's still fraught, and scary, but it's just quicker and more fluid; with your increased skills you don't outrun your opponent, he evolves to match you still.

And yeah as far as bigger set-pieces more enemies, that doesn't seem to remove its horror credentials. After the terrible arse about RE6 being not horror when it was more horror than the two games before it, then yeah I'm inclined to play the game first and then decide.

I liked the bit where the snowstorm clears and you can see the mining facility.

I tried a co-op game yesterday and tarts that me and this random were we kept changing our suits in the suit wardrobe by the first generator.

The issue with micro transactions in this for me, is the degradation of the atmosphere of the game into more of an action game. It's the same thing EA did with Mass Effect 3, essentially turn it into a third person shooter but with some extra elements. Horror for DS3 and RPG for ME3.

It's sequelitis , everyone wants the sequel to be the same but at the same time full of new ideas . 

When developers make the next game and is virtually the same sort of game , they get slated and when they change things they get slated . It normally comes down to a compromise of ideas. 

Regarding micro-transactions I'm not bothered and never use them but they should never be used to the detriment of the game . These seem more like shortcuts , the same as they use in other games to unlock tracks , tiger woods courses and most other EA games

I'm with ma man Curtis. This had the double misfortune of being a bit shit then being followed up by me dipping my toes into the DMC demo which was TEH Dug's Testes

I've just had an email saying it's been despatched. I didn't know when this was out so it came as a shock!

I don't know if Dead Space 3 is really a sign of that slippery slope bit though. As with Mass Effect 3, being able to purchase the ammo packs and that was just totally unnecessary. It would be a different thing entirely if this was required to play the game.

My feeling on the microtransactions is that Visceral and EA are entitled to introduced whatever mechanics they want, but in adding unknown quantities to their game like this they're undermining some of the advantages in working with an established IP. If this mechanic had been part of the series since the first one it's unlikely that anyone would give a shit, but potential pre-orderers are are being asked to accept a potentially pervasive new mechanic without experiencing it first-hand before. It adds an element of risk to an inherently risky £40 purchase. I think a lot of people will reasonably want to wait and see what the reaction to it is when it comes out, maybe even wait for a price-drop to reduce the element of risk, and I can't imagine that being that Visceral or EA wants really.