I don't think that getting drunk and behaving like an idiot, as far too many people appear to do every weekend, is any more socially acceptable than the societal problems caused by those who habitually take illegal drugs. I absolutely believe in personal freedom to stuff whatever you like into your own body and get drunk, high, stoned, whatever though, but only until those actions impinge negatively on others around you or on society as a whole, as they all too often do.Yossarian wrote:I must say Igor, your objections to even soft drugs, seem to be, much like many others', based on a vague moral objection to them which fails to hold up under any sort of scrutiny. This whole moral aspect to this debate does seem to be something which exists only in relation to people liking to get high and which seems to distort the general debate. It seems mental to me that you can not find an equivalency between getting stoned and getting drunk and somehow come to the conclusion that one is worse than the other simply because one's socially acceptable. I hope that made sense, I'm quite drunk.
LazyGunn wrote:Moral objections to drugs hold absolutely no water, the consensus morality regarding them was socially engineered at the turn of the 20th century
igorgetmeabrain wrote:illegal drugs are banned precisely because they cause great and lasting harm both to individuals and to society as a whole.
Yossarian wrote:Bullshit are they. The whole cat and mouse game with new chemicals being created and banned should be proof of this. There is no evidence that any of these new creations are harmful yet they get banned as a reflex action.igorgetmeabrain wrote:illegal drugs are banned precisely because they cause great and lasting harm both to individuals and to society as a whole.
Brooks wrote:It's nice when a new poster takes their hobby seriously.
Yossarian wrote:Nah, Scrawl's entirely new. He's a friend of mine that I thought would enjoy this place.
Diluted Dante wrote:Absolutely n0face. I think a huge part of people acting like twats when drunk is not down to the alcohol at all, but down to them being twats, and thinking it's ok to do twattish things.
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