What a condescending arrogant bastard.  I really have had a bellyfull of this. Does he really think he came up with a response fitting of a PM?

"Your viewers do need to understand that the meat industry involves killing a lot of animals."

I wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire.

monkey wrote:

"Your viewers do need to understand that the meat industry involves killing a lot of animals."

I for one am shocked.

monkey wrote:

"Your viewers do need to understand that the meat industry involves killing a lot of animals."

One thing Alistair Campbell was saying the other day about how he comments on things (in that case police protecting woman) which isn’t his place - don’t opine, act you are the fucking PM. 
Nice that his expensive eduction taught him how live stock farming works though, that interview was beyond patronizing

But playing the part of bailing out Johnson doesn’t appeal so much. NIce straw man tho

From tomorrow’s Times front page:

acemuzzy wrote:

I'm down to a quarter tank. All local places still empty. When am I allowed to stay panicking?

Its ok, the army are on their way.
They sent a tank down to my local last night. No idea what they expected that turret to do but it wasn't helping calm things down

I believe we need to pay drivers more?

Army drivers are on £20K a year.

The HGV thing is fucked and will be fucked for a good while.
Pay should/is being improved but we also need to improve rest stops to even equal EU conditions.

Then there is the fact that we have put two fingers up to EU workers so we need to resolve that. Also our actions forced a bunch of EU drivers to miss Christmas with their family last year so they are unlikely to want to sit at a ferry crossing again at any time of year let alone Christmas. So we either need to change our border regulations or massively up the efficiency of checks (more facilities and staff basically) which will of course take time.

EU drivers are gone.
We need to train our own but that is going to take time, investment and targeting of young people.

It is going to take so long I wouldn't be surprised if supply chains change first. To what I have no idea but there is enough money that hinges on logistics that if an alternative can be found it will.

Oh absolutely and what better way to eliminate government doubts on AI than to dig them out the shit. Don't be shocked if there is a bunch of government funding put that way. In fact Sunak announced 2000 AI jobs (apprenticeships iirc) yesterday.

Rail freight I don't know. Maybe they are but is the industry that big these days? Could be that it has eroded to the point it can't expand quickly enough to be a solution.

Truth is that rail freight is still quite a big deal, but relies on HGVs for the final miles. Rail freight no longer runs directly into towns and cities, but to out-of-town logistics hubs instead. Railheads, they’re called. It’s all about the containerisation of logistics. Lifting containers off ships and on to trains then off trains and on to trucks is mega-efficient … until there are no trucks and everything stacks up instead.

The gov is going to have to open the borders and have generous packages from employers. It's more evidence of incompetency and arrogance. Pure and simple. No plan.

By all means have aims about UK employees doing more of these jobs if that is what you want (I won't go into why)  but you have to identify the jobs affected by Brexit and then build up capacity over several years.

poprock wrote:

Truth is that rail freight is still quite a big deal, but relies on HGVs for the final miles. Rail freight no longer runs directly into towns and cities, but to out-of-town logistics hubs instead. Railheads, they’re called. It’s all about the containerisation of logistics. Lifting containers off ships and on to trains then off trains and on to trucks is mega-efficient … until there are no trucks and everything stacks up instead.

Cheers.

It makes sense I suppose as we have moved our shops and industry out of and to the edge of towns while our rail has remained much the same for 100 years and the places where freight would be dropped off has been repurposed.
I live in a building opposite the train station that used to store hops before being moved to breweries, prime example.
The brewery in town is now offices/flats and the new brewery is now a massive out of town thing.

davyK wrote:

The gov is going to have to open the borders and have generous packages from employers. It's more evidence of incompetency and arrogance. Pure and simple. No plan. By all means have aims about UK employees doing more of these jobs if that is what you want (I won't go into why)  but you have to identify the jobs affected by Brexit and then build up capacity over several years.

1000,000 drivers needed.
5000 visas offered.
127 applications. (This is the number today and admitted by twat himself Johnson but 27 or 127 is splitting hairs)

I think the damage is done.

That number of 127 applications is even lower than I expected tbh. I thought they might get something like 500-1000, with those applying doing so because they have strong ties here and see a paid trip over to see family every no and again. Or a may as well apply type thing.