I felt the same about Wario Ware I think.

There’s obviously good microgames but they are ridiculously simple and the lack of toys is a real big shame.

Absolutely and most definitely Deathloop.

Syph79 wrote:

Flight Sim is a good shout and my experience was the same as Wookie’s - albeit it was my house not his.

I’d probably include FH5 in the same bracket

It's Flight Sim for me, because all along I thought we were getting Earth-tier streetviews, instead of building assets from Thomas the Tank Engine.

FH5 deserves to be called out for its grindtacular nature, after I spent longer glitching than it takes to fully unlock an early Turismo. And of course that was unintentionally rapid, so it got patched within a week.

And I think its map has too many boring regions, so your favourite roads are quickly overused. I pretty much avoid the South, and the motorway just feels out of place.

Gran Turismo 2 has more cars and it takes a lot less time to collect them, with no special requirements.

Horizon 5's massively stingy because we live in a post-FUT world.

Yep my thing with Forza is after a few races it throws a shit ton of stuff at you. The map looks like the busiest Ubisoft open world game. Possibly too much.

There’s other ways to collect cars aside from spins, though; weekly and monthly challenges and making good use of the auction house, both in buying and selling, being the major ones.

How long were you playing the game for before you started glitching?

It's elden ring

Horizon series definitely suffers from glut, and has been on a bigger is better mantra for past few titles. I would like to see more of an editorial hand in the next one.

Unless this was your first entry in the series, however, I can't see this as most disappointing game of the year; from its first reveal, I knew exactly what it would be - more FH.

Escape wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

How long were you playing the game for before you started glitching?

A few hours. Long enough to realise it was worth jumping on the glitch before they patched it. It'd be interesting to know how many others did. Supposing hundreds of thousands found its repetitious grinding the lesser of two evils...

You don't mind that I unlocked the cars and houses in a few days while you're still chasing loads down? Unlocks consisting not of ability but tens of hours poured in. If you can honestly say you've never felt frustration, great.

Once I had everything I was able to concentrate on the driving, and IMO it's not all that. 50's a large fightman roster, but it's rare to find a game with that sort of garage now. FH5's the most quantity over quality driving game I've played.

I think many reject the idea of fewer cars because we're so used to minimal differences. I'd like to play a game where each car had spent five times as long in dev. It's 23 and I still feel Gran Turismo did one of the best jobs of giving cars character.

One of the things I like about WipEout Omega is how the ships all have good and bad tracks, making for interesting weaponless multiplayer championships.

Unlocks don’t consist of hours poured in, as I say, weekly and monthly challenges are skill based unlocks. There are tons of cars available through accolades. Making good use of the auction house is another way of unlocking cars. If there’s a specific car that I want in a Forza game, I’m not trying to get it from a wheelspin.

And no, I’m not remotely bothered about you having unlocked everything through your glitch, I’m quite happy with a session every week or so where I take on new challenges with parts of my garage that I may not have paid much attention to in order to unlock a few more bits and pieces. It’s not like I haven’t got most, if not all the cars that I really wanted in my garage already.

You can play the game how you want, of course, but I think it’s a bit ridiculous to suggest a game needs calling out for a set of systems which you glitched your way past and evidently never really engaged with in the first place. It would be like if I called out Doom for being too easy if, after a few hours play, I switched on god mode and breezed through the rest of the game.

FH is now definitely just a game for its fans. There’s no way a newcomer (hi) can be anything other than overwhelmed and then under managed by its splurge and glut of stuff it throws out. This doesn’t make it a bad game but it certainly makes it a terrible example of a well designed UX. If you’ve been in for a while and it’s doing what you want then I’m sure that it’s great but it’s a franchise that I’ve tried to get into over the past two iterations now and it just feels like it doesn’t want me there.

For me it’s exactly like those magic eye pics from the 90’s that I couldn’t see because of my stupid vision. I want to experience the thrills I hear others discussing but I just can’t ever seem to make it work for me, no matter how I approach it.

Forza’s last two iterations have been where player counts exploded, so it has to have been attracting newcomers over those two games.

And pretty consistently in the Steam top sellers.

Yeah! Totally agree. The opening intro is astounding on every one I’ve ever tried and, this time, it’s definitely gonna be the one I like as much as the rest of you lot. And then I hit the festival start grid and from there it just feels degenerates to something that really feels like it needs much more careful thought than what it just keeps doing.

Edit. At regs post up there.

They're big and huge games, I get ya. They're also dense for newcomers. Again, all I want is a bit more control over how much stuff is in the game.

GTA Trilogy.
I really wasn't asking for too much with this, not once SA was put on GP anyway.
I dont care about the low quality graphics and things that could be patched out.
The real issue is they didn't bother making it a playable game.
They put in checkpoints but placed them poorly.
They added GTAV's aim system put didnt put in the cover it relies upon.

Its not a dissapointment in the sense that I was expecting so much rather that they delivered so little. Well below the viable minimum.