Yes, in my particular role I’m trained in a couple of specific risk assessment tools (SA07 and RM2K) as well as risk management / risk practice. It’s why I can state with absolute confidence that perceived risk and objective dangerousness are not the same thing. Actual risk and dangerousness aren’t even the same thing.Paul the sparky wrote:Surely you've done a risk assessment in your line of work?
DrewMerson wrote:Yes, in my particular role I’m trained in a couple of specific risk assessment tools (SA07 and RM2K) as well as risk management / risk practice. It’s why I can state with absolute confidence that perceived risk and objective dangerousness are not the same thing. Actual risk and dangerousness aren’t even the same thing.Paul the sparky wrote:Surely you've done a risk assessment in your line of work?
You are still approaching this question as though the context is one of two nerds arguing about Batman versus Superman, or whether a Great White Shark would score higher than a Tyrannosaurus rex in the Top Trumps deck of carnivores. To repeat: the question was not ‘which one would win in a fight?’ or ‘which is more dangerous?’ The question wasn’t even ‘which would you rather be attacked by’? The question was ‘which would you rather encounter alone in the woods’ and that frames the whole thing differently. This is not pedantry or splitting hairs, they are each different questions, with different contexts.
Unlikely wrote:Sorry, late to the thread and haven't seen the source that inspired this reasonable discussion.
Moot_Geeza wrote:If the question was 'would you rather be killed by a bear or raped by a man?', would women who chose the former be vilified for man hating?
For what it’s worth, I don’t think you get to accuse me of straw-manning or bad-faith posting when you’re writing nonsense like this.Paul the sparky wrote:The way this thread is going, if men were to say I don't want a woman because some of them can't even park a car in a parking space, you'd have their back?
DrewMerson wrote:I’m not trying to be slinky or sly, Paul, I’m just trying to point out the difference between objective dangerousness and perceived risk, highlight that the way the question is framed means that the context is the latter, and provide examples of questions which would be concerned with the former, to demonstrate the difference. But, going back to Tin’s post, he makes the point very concisely. If that post didn’t get through, mine certainly won’t.
DrewMerson wrote:For what it’s worth, I don’t think you get to accuse me of straw-manning or bad-faith posting when you’re writing nonsense like this.Paul the sparky wrote:The way this thread is going, if men were to say I don't want a woman because some of them can't even park a car in a parking space, you'd have their back?
Paul the sparky wrote:It's not nonsense. It's looking at it from the other perspective. This bear question and Tate's bullshit are two sides of the same coin. Curate a question with the intention to shite on the opposite sexDrewMerson wrote:For what it’s worth, I don’t think you get to accuse me of straw-manning or bad-faith posting when you’re writing nonsense like this.Paul the sparky wrote:The way this thread is going, if men were to say I don't want a woman because some of them can't even park a car in a parking space, you'd have their back?
Paul the sparky wrote:Curate a question with the intention to shite on the opposite sex
nick_md wrote:Yeah this notion of flip the genders / would you be comfy with a female pilot = the same is wild nonsense that just shows the point has been spectacularly missed. At this point I don't think it's going to land either. The point, not the plane.
We didn’t really need further evidence that you are completely missing the point, but thanks. You seem to be completely missing the point of mine, too, so there really is no point.Paul the sparky wrote:The crux of Tin's post is making the bear irrelevant to the question.
tin_robot wrote:
It's essentially irrelevant whether a bear is actually more or less dangerous than a man.
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