Dunno, perhaps it was the most relevant and recent point of their schooling due to their age? Mine are 14 & 16 and - yay due to smashing middle class parenting we raised ‘em aware of all our social issues from year dot - but A LOT of kids only get this shit from schools. Primary school was all about fairness and inclusion moving on to (admittedly simple) sex and race issues, with the issue of gender identity not really becoming more prominent until year 7 or 8.

It's pretty reasonable to expect young, socially progressive students to be very in tune with the debate about trans (human) rights because it is a natural reaction to the absolutely unhinged, hysterical paranoia of the conservatives and right wing media.

In my generation we were anti war (Afghan, Iraq) and anti racism (Pauline Hanson) because that's what the media and government of the day were in favour of.

Although I don't play as much Michael as previously, I think due to the circumstances it's easier to carry on listening really.

Because the OP isn't about trans rights. It's about how we feel about work from "questionable" creators.

Rowling isn't an issue for me, so thought I'd use MJ as an example.

Edit: Godwin's Law. Since the OP is about work from questionable creators. Mein Kampf is actually relevant.

davyK wrote:

Happy to rewatch Rosemary's Baby and Chinatown.  Doesn't make me condone Polanski.

Wonder how many Weinstein productions are still in our streaming libraries....

drumbeg wrote:

Happy to rewatch Rosemary's Baby and Chinatown.  Doesn't make me condone Polanski.

Wonder how many Weinstein productions are still in our streaming libraries....

And Pixar (Lasseter).

I'd say a work of art that is a collective endeavour is substantially different to that of an auteur or sole artist being the driving force.

Even "misery" is too binary for me though. I guess veganism is that if you're including animal misery (and if you're not, why not?). What if the checkout person looks miserable at your local vegan store though? There are margins on everything.

So (at risk of repeating myself) for me it's a case of realising there's a whole plethora of ways you can make minor differences, appreciating they're all worthy, understanding they have varying impacts, being honest that you can't do anywhere near all of them, and hence picking the things that feel right to you / that you have most energy for, and maybe encouraging others to do likewise. And not vilifying those that choose differently (unless they're being dicks about it).

What are the actual points of contention in the JKR topic.

* Do women experience DV and deserve improvement in this area? Of course.
* Are trans people entitled to basic human dignity and to be treated equally? Of course.
* Does the basic right of an individual to express her views exist? Yes
* Does the basic right of others to argue and subsequently boycott her works exist? Yes.

If we agree that all these four rights exist, to me it appears that upholding the third one is the only one that can materially cause harm to others, in that it appears that she is campaigning directly against the basic rights of another group.

She can certainly have and express an opinion. I actually admire if and when she has campaigned against domestic violence (she isn't a prominent campaigner in Australia). But the anti-trans lobbying efforts have long since extended to become harmful to others. Intended or otherwise.

davyK wrote:

The mining for Lithium is something that a great many of us gloss over too.

In comparison to mining for fossil fuels, it's very much a lesser evil:

Again it's a "pick you battles" thing imo - maybe we can help both, maybe we can proportionally impact the lithium thing more easily than fossil fuels, I have no fucking idea

Depends on the selection criteria. Inconvenience vs principles.

Hands being washed.

Supply and demand.  That's going into batteries.

davyK wrote:

I'm sitting here with my laptop and my smartphone.

I have an order with ebay for a battery for my Volvo key fob.

All very convenient.

I have no clue where that stuff comes from. That's the fact of the situation.  A bit tougher to address than a multi-millionaire's opinion on what constitutes a woman.

Isn't there a supply chain certification program?
I'm not denying the image, I'm saying there is at least some existing audit process already. Imperfect, sure.

But it is not isolated to lithium.

Any and all mining minerals will be in some places, dug up by children. That's what I meant.

drumbeg wrote:

I feel it necessary to add this word.

davyK wrote:

A bit tougher to address than a multi-billionaire woman's opinion on what constitutes a woman.

Also necessary