MattyJ wrote:

Well I assume he actually delivered his lines while filming so sound must be able to get out?

 

Don't forget that all scenes filmed in IMAX are overdubbed because you can't record dialogue whilst filming IMAX. So that's an hour of the film nearly over dubbed, not just Bane.

I've exaggerated it, but it is difficult as it is lod and has a short shot load length.  

From this article How The Dark Knight went IMAX

We found ways and we planned ways of getting around for example, the short load-times which is you know, we would just swap one camera for another when it ran out of film and that kind of thing,” explained director Christopher Nolan. “Generally with action sequences which is mostly what we were shooting you really rarely roll for more than ten seconds for example so it tends not to really be a factor. Shooting a dialog scene with an IMAX camera would be a bigger challenge because of the noise of the camera and the short length of the loads and so forth but we got better and better at it, we had a terrific crew, a lot of our camera mounts and things were 35 millimeter they were ones they’re built to withstand enormous abuse, so they can take the weight of a much larger camera

It must be distracting for the actors. Also its got to be difficult for the director to know he got the performance when you're getting half visually and then the audio 2nd.

Jimmy The Lips wrote:

Yar, but they already said they won't give all characters there own film, they don't want to follow the marvel route,  they want things to be grittier.

A gritty Wonder Woman? Good lord. If any character need to follow the Marvel template it's her. Id Warner have any sense whatsoever, the second Joss Whedon isn't contractually barred from making another comic book film they will throw piles of money at him to make Wonder Woman.

Anyway, I enjoyed this, but thought it could be better.

wonder woman was filmed last year wasnt it? Was it cancelled? I saw a few pictures of the costume. It looked riddick.

There was a shitty TV pilot that didn't get picked up.

Yes, Whedon wrote a Wonder Woman script that the studio didn't like. After seeing The Avengers they're probably kicking themselves.

I watched inception again the other day. Hard to fathom that Eames is bane.

I agree about Bane's death but not No Country for Old Men as said in the article. Mucho differento.

I mean The Dark Knight sets itself up as this whole thing of Batman being shown to be outmatched and weak and then he rebuilds himself and is going to prove that he is once again tough and he almost does and then he doesn't and you wonder why you've been duped out of what seemed to be the focus of the movie by something that isn't really winked at all during the film.

adkm1979 wrote:

Article reads like the angry rant of an internet person (like what I'm prone to) not a proper Guardian article.

Yep, although there are valid points. Mate of mine has a theory that DC didnt want Bane to be conclusively dead so they can maybe use him again if they wish. Hence its only a quick shot of him taking a hit. Not sure I agree with him but it is pretty unsatisfactory either way.

Maybe he landed funny.

I finally saw this last knight. I must say, I was impressed with the film in general. I wasn't completely blown away like in TDK with the performances. I left feeling that everything ended satisfactorily and that Nolan in general produced a series of work that he can be proud of.  as for the various characters, there was a mixture of disappointment to joy. I felt that some of the screen time for certain people was terrible but then they did put a massive cast to play with.

Overall.
Its clear that Nolan struggled with what to do next with the story after the loss of Heath Ledger.
 IMO the film needed some kind of big character to make it work and to explain who was behind the planning in TDK( clearly not the Joker afaik). I felt he almost went back to the drawing board to take another angle.

 I like that he borrowed elements from 'The Cult' in terms of the gang based in the sewers and I saw scope for having Bane breaking Batman both psychologically as well as physically in a similar vein to this story. 
I'm not sure as to why he felt the reason to have things start 8 years after TDK. 
I suppose it gave him the chance the to show that Bruce was now a retired broken man, unsure what direction he was to go after hanging up the cape.  It would have been nice to know if he had stopped shortly after the end of TDK or if it was only in the last couple of years. I guess it gives Nolan the option to have a film to fill in these years if he wants and show how Bruce got to the stage he was at. 

 In the comic Bane breaks him by making him face all the key villains before  making his move.  Here it seemed he was very close to being broken already, and his attitude was almost a 'once more for old times sake'  rather than the driven Batman we had previously seen.   

On the subject of Bane. they made him the dumb muscle once again. There was not the slightest hint of the intelligence Bane was meant to have, or the drive for him to destroy and break Batman. Bane was actually split into 2 characters for the film for me. Talia fulfilling the calculative planning part of Bane that should have been present. Hardy did an amazing job with what he was given. But there was not much difference for me with this Bane and the Batman and Robin one. Harsh, but Killer Croc could have been in Bane's place and it wouldn't have made the slightest difference for me.  I would have removed Talia, kept the storyline back to the comic Bane. 
 Nolan wanted a twist and I felt he manufactured it. He then played us by dismissing Bane as just another goon in the manner he was killed, pushing us that he was just a pawn, what he did was for love. He was following Talia's plan all along, protecting her by keeping her out of the spotlight and being the 'bad guy'. It just didn't work for me and what I would have liked to see. Then they had to take her out in a rather badly acted death scene. Pity really. 

Anne Hathaway was excellent. nuff said. 

I love the last 10 minutes. Whether Alfred imagined seeing Bruce or not, he is alluded that he believes that he has now 'moved on' and found peace. Do I think Bruce used the auto pilot? Yes.  Does Alfred know about Selena to picture her with him? No.. It's just more Nolan ambiguity really so we can believe what we want. 

Blake as Batman/Robin/Nightwing - there is a part of me that would see this film if it was made. I liked the Blake character. I would like to see how they would progress it. It was a solid turn from Gordon, hats off to him.  Part of me was like 'wow' when the platform was rising below him. 

All in all. really enjoyed it. some story issues for this comic book fan but would see it again.  

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Must have slipped in the shower and knackered his knee then.

I know that. He clearly hasn't showered.

Anyone want to see it at Imax London with me? I'm thinking I'll go sometime this week. I saw it at a regular cinema but can't pass up seeing the proper Imax shots as I remember them being rather impressive in TDK

Would've been much better if they had Hawking playing Bane, have him bulk up and pulling wheelies of doom.