stonechalice wrote:

The Responder seems decent enough after two episodes. Nothing mind-blowing mind.

Bob wrote:

The second episode was a bit dull

And I thought the second episode was incredible.  Freeman will be winning all the awards for this.  He seems to be stepping up into Stephen Graham levels over the past few years.

The Responder episode one was good but hit a bit close to home for me as someone who left the job over the impact on mental health.

Watched the first episode of the Jeremy Thorpe scandal adaptation with Hugh Grant in the lead. (iPlayer) Excellent stuff. I read the book last year and so far this is pleasing as it is including the idiosyncracies of the supporting characters like the Lord who lets badgers have the run of his house and the fact that Thorpe's mother wore a monocole.

Yea it's tough watching, a year ago I wouldn't have been able to watch it but now I'm in a very good place I can enjoy it

Gangs of London episode 6 - the cottage seige. Holy fuck. The action in this is so well done. Just when I think it can't get any more visceral, it does.

MattyJ wrote:

All these recommendations for BBC shows, I thought the licence fee wasn't worth it anymore?

If it was surely they’d be brave enough to make it a
Subscription service

I cancelled my TV license over a year ago. The War of the Worlds and Dracula was the last straw. I haven’t missed it one bit.

It works for itv ??

Bob wrote:

It works for itv ??

ITV isn’t a subscription service, the broadcast version is ad-supported and only ad-supported.

Bob wrote:

I
Mean essentially our kids have no
Concept of broadcast tv anyway

Unless they watch sports, which I’m sure many of them do. Also, why are we only concerned about the kids? Nobody is asking children to pay a TV license.

The children are our future or haven’t you heard

Bob wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

Bob wrote:

It works for itv ??

ITV isn’t a subscription service, the broadcast version is ad-supported and only ad-supported.

Bob wrote:

I
Mean essentially our kids have no
Concept of broadcast tv anyway

Unless they watch sports, which I’m sure many of them do. Also, why are we only concerned about the kids? Nobody is asking children to pay a TV license.

Exactly and you can pay for an iplayer style
No ad service - they’re the closest commercial
Uk tv has to bbc snd they survive

How do you remove ads from the broadcast version?

He means ITV Hub plus or whatever. It removes the pre, mid and post roll ads from their on demand content. It obviously does not remove ads from the live broadcast streams including sports, news and so on.

Things I don't like about arguing with people about the license fee. number 225:

- that they can't seem to grasp the difference between guaranteed income and competitive, variable income

The fact that the BBC can absolutely 100% rely on £billions of revenue allows it to 

a) take risks that no commercial broadcaster possibly could
b) support services that no commercial broadcaster ever would (yes I know you don't use them - see Things I don't like...number 12)
c) back things for longer rather than cancelling as soon as first episode doesn't hit arbitrary streaming target
d) plan strategically, and experiment. Look at the stuff the Nature team have done with innovative cameras and filming techniques, which can take years to work

Diluted Dante wrote:

The sub option is technically possible, but requires the BBC content to be accessible only with a CI card.

… And nobody even knows what they are.

Yossarian wrote:

The thing I realised with all of the talk about making the BBC a subscription service or doing ad-supported for free and paying for no ads and all of that is how the hell is that supposed to work with broadcast TV and radio?

There's other things such as the fact that the BBC has concert and symphony orchestras. BBC Scotland has one too. There might even be a choir. Stuff that will simply disappear.

In fact, isn't The Proms a BBC presentation? It would explain the content rich website.


Then there's its archive. Who would look after that?

Vote to defund the BBC and I will fight you