Documentaries Thread - The Bear and Badger

Tempy

Enjoyed the new Curtis

Roujin

Yep. Same.

beano

JonB wrote:

I usually like Curtis but didn't get far with Bitter Lake at all. Didn't seem to be going anywhere. All the montage stuff can be very effective, but you still need to get to the point.

Fortunately HyperNormal. is alright as it gives up on what Bitter Lake tested.

Brooks

I don't think I can bring myself to watch the new Curtis, I already know the world is a hampered clusterfuck without solution.

davyK

Brooks wrote:

I don't think I can bring myself to watch the new Curtis, I already know the world is a hampered clusterfuck without solution.

This.

I'm angry enough thank you very much Mr. Curtis Sir.

afgavinstan

I fell asleep during it. From what I saw, parts of it were good, but a lot of it was just waffle imho.

[Deleted User]

Not enough dog pics 4 gav

afgavinstan

Aye that's it. Fucking moran.

[Deleted User]

Thick fud

Tempy

davyK wrote:

Brooks wrote:

I don't think I can bring myself to watch the new Curtis, I already know the world is a hampered clusterfuck without solution.

This.

I'm angry enough thank you very much Mr. Curtis Sir.

It wasn't really what I expected, but the end result seemed to have a bit of nihilistic freedom to it. Everything is so shifting and amorphous that there's no point in rebellion anymore. Had fun picking out musical cues as ever (NIN, Clint Mansel's Moon OST, some Burial, credit theme from Poltergiest, a track from The Thing I think) and good to see Roadside Picnic get some props as ever.

afgavinstan

legaldinho wrote:

Thick fud

I have put it back on, from where I think I drifted off.

[Deleted User]

Twas probably the hipster coding bit, not so much the bombs bit.

I thought it was good, not quite the heights of the trilogy (trap, fear, machines)

Gremill

legaldinho wrote:

Twas probably the hipster coding bit, not so much the bombs bit.

I thought it was good, not quite the heights of the trilogy (trap, fear, machines)

There's not much out there that is though.

pantyfire

I feel asleep as well.
Which means I'll just have to watch it again.

afgavinstan

Quite enjoyed it by the end. Christ that Occupy movement was tedious.

Is that other doc of his on iPlayer worth a look?

Djornson

Watching hypernormalisation. It amazes me how much there is in the world i do not know

pantyfire

ALL of his are worth a look.
For something less political go for The Way of All Flesh about Henrietta Lacks.
http://thoughtmaybe.com/the-way-of-all-flesh/

LarryDavid

It Felt Like A Kiss is great if you just want some good music and some nice things to look at.

The Mayfair Set is fantastic, in that it makes the world of finance actually interesting.

afgavinstan

Mmmm, docs about bankers and finance n ting are what I'm after. Got a link to them LD?

LarryDavid

Follow Panty's link. All his series are on there.

If not:

afgavinstan

Many thanks, and Pant too.

Tempy

afgavinstan wrote:

Quite enjoyed it by the end. Christ that Occupy movement was tedious.

An interesting way of looking at it.

Escape

Pornographer of doom, Curtis.

afgavinstan

Tempy wrote:

afgavinstan wrote:

Quite enjoyed it by the end. Christ that Occupy movement was tedious.

An interesting way of looking at it.

Sorry, weak wording in a rush there. I just remember feeling at the time "well what's being accomplished here?" and I felt not much.

Tempy

I felt that was the main thrust of the Docu though - nothing can be accomplished because the narrative is mutable to the point of nonexistence now. Maybe I am reading Curtis' docs totally wrong, but this whole Post Truth thing seems to explain why movements in the Western World don;t achieve much - they're fighting against a shifting system that can't be toppled - it just plants blame at a target it creates, and continues to exist elsewhere. What's that film about the tiny bank that was the only institution that got charged after the Housing Market Crisis in America?

afgavinstan

Oh, totally, I agree completely. Was about that point of the doc/Russia, it all started to click with me.

Tempy

Yeah. The digression to Patti Smith and the "Semiotics of the Kitchen" bit did a lot of work when it came back at the end. He's not disparaging of the retreat to the web and the whole revolution of the self that people are so damning of, but accepting it as a logical outcome from a reality that is PostTruth.

Roujin

I'm with temps here. I felt like the doctor gave a great example in gadaffi about how fucked perception management has made everything, creating a simple problem out of a complex event instead of dealing with the complex event. Which just perpetuates the real issue, in this case Henry Kissinger's total fucking off of the middle east to protect global power status quo instead of working with them for a better global future with a more equal planet.

The occupy movement was a great example of how the system of perception management destroys your oppositions ability to deal with you. They are subject to the perception you created, so when they try to solve the simplified problem they are presented with, their solution fails for no seemingly good reason.

The nail in the coffin was Putin's campaign guy fucking with everyone on purpose so the public can't tell what fuck is real or staged whenever something happens. Sponsoring parties who openly opposed Putin then revealing himself as the backer. Used as a means to show how a fuckwit like trump possibly ended up getting through as the opposition candidate to the system's preferred nominee, Clinton.

Roujin

Also by its own admission you then have to ask if anything in the documentary is true, or if Curtis deliberately changed bits to fuck with your perception!

Tempy

Yeah I am way to thick for it, but I'd at least heard of some of the stuff he was talking about before. Would like to read around and see if his tracking of the history of suicide bombing is accurate.

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