tedious and counterproductive leftwing gatekeeping
Blue Dabadee wrote:These purity radicals wanting it exactly their own way: a considerate leftwing government in one of the richest countries, or nothing at all! There's no compromising with 'em!
Except purity gatekeeping is a favoured tactic of the Brexit Ultras as well.Escape wrote:By the way, I think...
tedious and counterproductive leftwing gatekeeping
Is almost always a rightwing play.
Escape wrote:By the way, I think...
tedious and counterproductive leftwing gatekeeping
Is almost always a rightwing play.
I reckon so.GooberTheHat wrote:I don't believe they have a clue how to properly delete emails. Pretty sure there will be a server side backup/log of emails for audit/record keeping purposes, as all emails sent via official govt accounts are official communications.
davyK wrote:GooberTheHat wrote:I don't believe they have a clue how to properly delete emails. Pretty sure there will be a server side backup/log of emails for audit/record keeping purposes, as all emails sent via official govt accounts are official communications.
If they are using Office 365 with legal hold switched on , then deleting emails is a waste of time.
Diluted Dante wrote:A new left wing party is doomed to failure at national level. A Corbyn led one would return, at best, Corbyn. And he could do that without a party.
The only way one might succeed is to ignore national politics, and operate exclusively at local level building support potentially over decades.
GooberTheHat wrote:They almost certainly will be.If they are using Office 365 with legal hold switched on , then deleting emails is a waste of time.I don't believe they have a clue how to properly delete emails. Pretty sure there will be a server side backup/log of emails for audit/record keeping purposes, as all emails sent via official govt accounts are official communications.
mistercrayon wrote:The party name is now critical for branding - you need that name to stand a chance . If that Dominic Grieve became toast because he wasn’t an official conservative anymore the chance that some unknown leftish party will make gains feels like a pipe dream. Even Change UK -every one of them is a famous politician and couldn’t do anything. Also - there are precedents of left wing parties sweeping in from nowhere but they almost always need the country is literally bankrupt levels of cock up for them to come in.
Diluted Dante wrote:mistercrayon wrote:The party name is now critical for branding - you need that name to stand a chance . If that Dominic Grieve became toast because he wasn’t an official conservative anymore the chance that some unknown leftish party will make gains feels like a pipe dream. Even Change UK -every one of them is a famous politician and couldn’t do anything. Also - there are precedents of left wing parties sweeping in from nowhere but they almost always need the country is literally bankrupt levels of cock up for them to come in.
Or PR.
LivDiv wrote:The most likely route to PR in my mind is one where Labour are forming a coalition post-election and to do so they adopt PR under pressure both from the other coalition parties and internally. For that to happen the Tories can't be able to form a government of any form. So constituencies need to have fewer parties splitting the non-Tory vote.
mistercrayon wrote:I fucking hate British politics thread. It’s so easy to get sucked in again and again.
I didnt actually know that, cheers.Funkstain wrote:There is historical precedent for this - the opportunity was there when the LibDems held the balance of power. Brown offered them PR parliamentary vote, I believe; but they rejected him for various reasons (Tories larger party; didn't want to be tarnished with stale New Labour brand; Brown insisted I believe in staying in control at least for a while and didn't hand out so many gifts (ministerial positions) to libdems as Cameron did, etc). This could of course happen againLivDiv wrote:The most likely route to PR in my mind is one where Labour are forming a coalition post-election and to do so they adopt PR under pressure both from the other coalition parties and internally. For that to happen the Tories can't be able to form a government of any form. So constituencies need to have fewer parties splitting the non-Tory vote.
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