HD Re-Make/ Re-Boot: Game Theory - The Bear and Badger

Stopharage

Would love to see a remake of California Games. Was gutted when it was mooted for the 360 and then never materialised.

hunk

Notable examples: Halflife Black Mesa springs to mind as does the original Resident evil remake.

Games I personally would like to see a HD remake of:

Grim Fandango
Deus Ex
System shock
Shenmue

Bollockoff

The REmake actually now it's mentioned is probably one of the best ones going. Added just the right amount of new stuff. Crimson Heads were great.

Vela

Crimson heads and Lisa.

Dark Soldier

Oh God that mention of Metroid Prime got me going. I'd buy summat Nintendo for the first time since the GC for that.

TheDJR

Chrono Cross.

RedDave2

Burnout 2 - keep everything the same but add eye-tearing HD 3d and super smooth frame rate. Yep, I'd love that.

Really would not mind a Doom 2 thats based on the gameplay more than the concept. Hugh numbers of bizarre but memorable enemies, health packs, lots of secret rooms even though they make no sense from a plot point of view and more than 2 weapons on your back.

IanHamlett

I love B2 so hard. Such a shame that Criterion are essentially disbanded. Fuck knows who you'd even have to ask for the rights since Acclaim went under.

Anyone remember an interview in Edge with the Criterion guys. I'm sure I remember one of them saying "We definitely won't just end up doing annual NFS updates." He was right tho, they did bi-annual updates until being absorbed into the company that was doing the other updates.

b0r1s

I'd rather see devs use classic mechanics and game ideas for new themes. For example few people have bothered to implement Zelda OOT's lock on well, but it would aid a lot of third person games.

A stone cold classic of a game doing this well is Shadow Complex aping Super Metroid incredibly well... More please :-)

IanHamlett

I don't know what you mean by using the lock on well. Its always seemed like the easy route for games that don't control as well as Ninja Gaiden. Bayonetta has one that actually does something as well as slick controls.

Personally, I can't wait for eye tracking to come as standard so we can do away with camera controls, aim, and lockon for good.

davyK

RedDave2 wrote:

Really would not mind a Doom 2 thats based on the gameplay more than the concept. Hugh numbers of bizarre but memorable enemies, health packs, lots of secret rooms even though they make no sense from a plot point of view and more than 2 weapons on your back.

Brutal Doom shows the way.

[Deleted User]

I second Deus Ex, also where's that oft rumoured Skies of Arcadia HD * stamps foot impatiently ala Sonic the fallen hog * no gameplay tweaks required.

[Deleted User]

Brutal Doom fuck yes.

hunk

Brutal Doom looks great!
It has that retro look but with all kinds of next gen polish like particles and light effects + mouselook for added bonus.
Looks like it could also work on a mobile device.

Elmlea

I agree with Moto re SWAT, I did have a legit copy of SWAT 4 somewhere and along with Homeworld, it was one of those games that I could replay whenever and enjoy all the way through.

I liked the Endwar/Rainbow 6 mechanic of using headsets for control. Dare I say it, but with Kinect/headset stuff, a modern SWAT game could be nicely different.

Rather than thinking about what games would look better now with more shinies, I've thought before (in fact, I started a thread on maroonrum about it) about what games could be genuinely enhanced with new-gen features, rather than just enhanced graphics. SWAT would fit that; cloud-based AI, voice commands, that sort of thing, stuff they just couldn't do a generation or 2 ago.

I need to buy a PC just for Homeworld and SWAT

hunk

Oculus Rift and P.Morpheus say : Hello.
Opportunities for HD remakes/Director's Cut/ Enhanced VR edition of classics galore.

[Deleted User]

I think we'll see a lot of old games remade/Rifted for VR, whether they benefit or not.

[Deleted User]

I still can't believe how good Brutal Doom looks. Retro-future ftw.

davyK

It's fecking amazing looking isn't it? Need to get myself a copy of Doom 2 off Steam. It's just a case of installing something in the WAD folder - amazing job.

All credit to Carmack who is a code architectural genius to build it in a way that allows this amount of scope in a mod so long ago.

The Daddy

Some old stuff upscales tremendously well with the right hardware/settings/emulator. Recently I tried Dragon Quest Viii, looked fantastic in 1080p, my PC couldn't maintain a decent frame rate though. Lots of potential there and elsewhere from that era.

I'd love to see an update of blast corps, could be knocked together fairly easily by rare, they could even tack on some kinetic bollocks to justify it.

Metronidazole (auto correct but I'm leaving it) Prime HD would be immense.

IanHamlett

Loads of old games are great with an upres. Bump it to 60fps if it wasn't already. I wish the whole bleem thing took off. We could just be buying £5 patches to old games instead of paying full whack for a spit and polish.

Escape

Opinion: lock-on (and auto-jump) ruined Ocarina of Time.

b0r1s

But it's neither a combat game or a platformer @Escape. It, was for me at least, more about the adventure, the puzzles, the dungeons etc.

Coming back to my point about lock-on is that it meant that you could effectively control what you wanted to target, without having to spin a camera or hope the developer got the camera angles right. I think they got the balance right, but that someone now should take that and build on it. As much as I've enjoyed playing Uncharted and TLoU recently, the close combat is pretty woeful and many times I died due to badly controlled cameras.

@IanHamlett Bayonetta I played a bit, and perhaps didn't get the nuances, but the noise for me drowned out any kind of considered tactical approach to combat, but that was probably lack of time (and skill) spent with the game.

hylian_elf

Good shout on Metroid Prime. Some games ooze atmosphere and have such a well designed world that would benefit from the extra power and resolution of newer consoles. MP is one of them.

Another I would choose is Vagrant Story. I would love to replay it. But I just can't stand PSOne visuals anymore. HD and new visuals would do wonders for the game, just don't mess with the style.

In fact; I'm going to replay it anyway.

Escape

b0r1s wrote:

But it's neither a combat game or a platformer @Escape. It, was for me at least, more about the adventure, the puzzles, the dungeons etc.

I played Mario 64 first, and assumed its engine would be repurposed. The greatest jump in 3D, gone. Immersion-breaking automation was pervasive.

A Link to the Past's combat was so good because it imposed limits on evasion and defence - one or the other. Ocarina of Time could have achieved this, and those who claim otherwise are blinded by the FUD smokescreen afront the dumbing-down of mechanics.

I'm not saying it fails as an adventure, but mechanically, I think it sucked.

b0r1s

Escape wrote:

b0r1s wrote:

But it's neither a combat game or a platformer @Escape. It, was for me at least, more about the adventure, the puzzles, the dungeons etc.

I played Mario 64 first, and assumed its engine would be repurposed. The greatest jump in 3D, gone. Immersion-breaking automation was pervasive. A Link to the Past's combat was so good because it imposed limits on evasion and defence - one or the other. Ocarina of Time could have achieved this, and those who claim otherwise are blinded by the FUD smokescreen afront the dumbing-down of mechanics. I'm not saying it fails as an adventure, but mechanically, I think it sucked.

I'd love to know what games at the time, with the exception of Mario 64 had great third person controls? OOT when I first played it I admit the auto jumps was weird, but apart from that the combat was enjoyable, especially compared to stuff out around the time.

mk64

North and South with a decent response to input mechanic.

djchump

Ali wrote:

Road Rash 3DO! Pleeeeeeeease.

Eric wrote:

...Road Rash 3DO is a great call though.

Roujin wrote:

.... I would also welcome a new Road Rash.

retroking1981 wrote:

Thats still my fav Road Rash game, blew my mind when I first saw that on 3DO. ...

May not be much cop, but:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/04/14/road-redemption-alpha-download/

GooberTheHat

Blade runner and syndicate wars please.

Bob

SpaceGazelle wrote:

Stunt Car Racer is a shout, although maybe it'd be better suited to VR. Also, 1080 is a shout. So atmospheric with the music turned off.

Good call.

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