Kow wrote:

Is this another one of those elections where you all overwhelmingly vote for the cunts who are burying you?

yes

Goober a real class act there with a capital letter and a full-stop. You can tell the boy's earned a pretty penny over the years and no mistake.

How to vote
Tory - You're a cunt.
UKIP - Mad cunt
Labour - Crazy twat
Lib Dems - Ashamed Tory (cunt)
SNP - you're ok as long as you don't want independence (in which case see UKIP).
Greens - Not sure what you're up to. You've got Corbyn in Labour. Just vote for that doofus.

Kow wrote:

Is this another one of those elections where you all overwhelmingly vote for the cunts who are burying you?

36% of voters backed the Tories.
24.4% of the electorate backed the Tories.

Far from overwhelming; the vagaries of FPTP unfortunately.

I can't see things being worse after a GE.
Like others have said if it shafts Corbyn then at least we might have an opposition that opposes something.
If the Tories get more seats what the fuck difference does it make?
Firmly of the belief things are going to have to get medieval before many engage their brains and consider they are being used by the right.

Comparison of Irish and UK Parliaments.
So currently we have a minority Government Supported by the largest opposition party, which is a bit odd, but you can see the breath of members.



The UK parliament has a breath of members, but only really in the form of nationalists in Scotland wales and NI (Unionists are nationalists too)
The English element has a total of 3 independent members and that includes Green and UKIP
I'm not one to call something a wasted vote, but in a FPTP system, without the unifying nature of nationalism, I do not see the point in voiting for something that cannot win. In fact UKIP shows that you can absorb millions of votes and amount to nothing. If those millions had gone to the Tories, their majority would be stronger. The same is true of the Greens and Independents, which would go to either labour or lib dem.
 

Liveinadive wrote:

I can't see things being worse after a GE.

All I can see is further decimation and destruction of the public sector. Tin has previously talked about the impact the Tories have had on the NHS, DS on social welfare, me (and others) on education. Don't think we have anyone involved in prisons, but that's equally bleak. Grim all round.

Ha, that's exactly what I just said to a colleague!

Stopharage wrote:

Liveinadive wrote:

I can't see things being worse after a GE.

All I can see is further decimation and destruction of the public sector. Tin has previously talked about the impact the Tories have had on the NHS, DS on social welfare, me (and others) on education. Don't think we have anyone involved in prisons, but that's equally bleak. Grim all round.

Totally agree. Bad wording by me there, I can see all that stuff happening without a GE and a GE where May wins.

I think the SNP campaign message will basically be 'mate. Seriously. Dyou think labour have a hope in hell of winning? It's us or the Tories.'

Not saying I agree with that strategy, but it's probably the easiest play for them to make.

It's mad how people can so easily and readily forgive the Lib Dems for bringing the Tories back to power merely because they now 'oppose Brexit'.

Seriously, fuck the Lib Dems.

Liveinadive wrote:

SNP will run away with it up there. They could all go on holiday between now and June.

I think they will now, aye. The Tories should've waited till after the council elections, I honestly thought their (and labour's) tactic of trying to turn the council elections into a straw poll for independence would've won them a bit, certainly enough to crow about it in the media. By calling this ge now, they've taken all the focus away from the council elections, I think the SNP will romp them now. Which in turn, will strengthen their calls for a second indyref.

Which the Tories will continue to ignore/block/threaten to walk out of holyrood if it happens.

The more I think about it, the more I think the Tories have gave up on keeping Scotland in favour of getting the hard brexit they want.

So another Indy Ref was going to be too problematic during the Brexit process but a GE is fine?  Fuck these cunts.

I think (hope) that there may be some truth to the idea that May might be trying to position herself to get ministerial support for a soft Brexit without finding the mental right wing of the Conservatives constantly holding her over a barrel.

If this ends up being the case, and this GE finally sees off Corbyn, then perhaps in the longer term it will end up being a good thing?

I don't know, I'm just trying to cling onto something here.

Pretty much my thinking, except for the fact that my Labour MP did oppose Brexit, which has confused the issue.