Jaco wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

The whole LotR trilogy is godawful.

The theatrical releases were okay, but the Director's Cuts are where it's at. Genuinely brilliant cinema. I have issues with the Two Towers as it takes some serious liberties with the book's plot, but on the whole I think Jackson did brilliantly well. Many considered LoTR unfilmable, he proved it wasn't. Still not a patch on the book though, natch.

Pretty sure that Jackson himself said that the theatrical releases should be viewed as the 'directors cut', and the others are 'extended' editions for fans that want more stuff...rather than treating the extended ones as the 'better' version.

From what i remember, I liked the extra bit at the beginning of Fellowship in the extended ones, otherwise all I remember was even more slow-mo bits, especially at the end of Return of the King!

I still think they're pretty great achievements overall, just some quibbles and veering too much into action war films in the latter ones. Plus they should have got James Earl Jones to do the voice of Treebeard.

RamSteelwood wrote:

Pretty sure that Jackson himself said that the theatrical releases should be viewed as the 'directors cut', and the others are 'extended' editions for fans that want more stuff...rather than treating the extended ones as the 'better' version.

Probably. They are better though. Significantly so for fans of the books.

RamSteelwood wrote:

Plus they should have got James Earl Jones to do the voice of Treebeard.

Yes.

And The Old Forest should have been in it (not just the Old Man Willow nod in Two Towers). And Tom Bombadil should have been Brian Blessed. Obviously.

Cosby wrote:

I loved the books but Tom Bombadil can get to fuck. So can Brian Blessed for that matter so can't argue with your casting.

A pox upon your house.

That is... surprising.

Turturro and Sarandon have been in some absolute stinkers over the years...

RamSteelwood wrote:

Jaco wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

The whole LotR trilogy is godawful.

The theatrical releases were okay, but the Director's Cuts are where it's at. Genuinely brilliant cinema. I have issues with the Two Towers as it takes some serious liberties with the book's plot, but on the whole I think Jackson did brilliantly well. Many considered LoTR unfilmable, he proved it wasn't. Still not a patch on the book though, natch.

Pretty sure that Jackson himself said that the theatrical releases should be viewed as the 'directors cut', and the others are 'extended' editions for fans that want more stuff...rather than treating the extended ones as the 'better' version.

He's absolutely chock full of shite then. The extra bits aren't just bits of disposable guff, they're some of the better scenes in the whole shebang. Stuff like Saruman's death, the Mouth of Sauron etc. are top scenes.

Quite liked the films. They don't held up too well. Far better than the books though - Very poor by the standards of fantasy today. No doubting the influence but... Ew. Not for me.

Yeah it's quite depressing.
The customers I'm not fussed about, bunch of spoilt frat kids.

Is the local staff who didn't get paid that irks me.

GooberTheHat wrote:

nick_md wrote:

I started watching that Fyre thing the other night, and intend to go back to it, but by fuck I had to turn it off after 20 mins; just didn't want to spend my evening in the company of utter cunts, only to then have to see the innocent folk fucked over.

I've heard that the lady that ran the restaurant, who paid her staff out of her own savings has had a go fund me (or something similar) started for her since the documentary came out, and it has already achieved its target. Not sure on the truth of that but I hope it is.

Yeah I heard this also, glad that she got sorted.

Re. the customers, I'm all for hating on frat kids but I imagine a bunch of them were also fairly normal and spent a lot of money to go to something they saw as aspirational and a once-in-a-lifetime thing. I just didn't want to sit though the organisers and Ja-fucking-Rule being utter twats then having to watch how it impacted the islanders and customers.

I'll revisit at some point.

Jaco wrote:

RamSteelwood wrote:

Pretty sure that Jackson himself said that the theatrical releases should be viewed as the 'directors cut', and the others are 'extended' editions for fans that want more stuff...rather than treating the extended ones as the 'better' version.

Probably. They are better though. Significantly so for fans of the books.

RamSteelwood wrote:

Plus they should have got James Earl Jones to do the voice of Treebeard.

Yes.

And The Old Forest should have been in it (not just the Old Man Willow nod in Two Towers). And Tom Bombadil should have been Brian Blessed. Obviously.

Jim dropping truthbombs all over the place.

Bombadil is trippy, hippy bollocks and it was wise to leave it out.

Just watched IO on Netflix. Good Lord, what a shocker. Terrible, awful, nonsensical film. A great premise wasted with a diabolical script and poor acting. Thinks it’s way more intelligent and profound than it is. Avoid like a plague-riddled Nazi.

Score: 1 boringly portentous speech out of 1,000.

Second Netflix flick of the night - The Great Wall. Matt Damon fights weird monsters on feudal China.

By any objective measure it’s terrible. It’s also brilliant because it knows it’s hokum.

7 green-blooded lizard thingamabobs out of 10.

Yeah I might give that a shot. Didn't realising was monster stupid shit. I thought it was just bad historical shit.

It’s a fucking awful film.




I loved it.