DOOM - Hurt me plenty! - The Bear and Badger

Verecocha

hylian_elf wrote:

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Khan Maykr

Did it; but it was just tedious doing the same thing 5 times. The fight got really annoying.

Oh god yes I hated that fight!!!

nick_md

Reminded by the covid thread, I really like Decino's content, and he uploaded an insight into the RNG of the Revenant's missiles yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1183VuvJ6Q

Always enjoy these dives into the code.

davyK

Nice. Great that iD always release their source code to the community. Was quite a revolutionary idea back when Doom's source was released.

nick_md

This week's Blindboy Podcast is with John and Brenda Romero, Doom fans.

Dark Soldier

Properly started Eternal now that Ive learnt m&k to a competent level.

Fuck.me what a game, whoever pefers 2016 over this is a lunatic. Slayer Gates are the bomb.

Making you constantly switch and flow the battlefield rather than just ammo overload is a genius idea. You really need to use all tools at your disposal, including traversal.

Syph79

When you get to the Marauders let’s talk about 2016.

hylian_elf

Marauders are the best. They reeaaaallly change up the dynamic. Does get a bit Benny Hill though during the busier fights.

stonechalice

Elf sent me this over a month ago and I've still not played it.

Syph79

stonechalice wrote:

Elf sent me this over a month ago and I've still not played it.

It’s really good, but not better than the 2016 reboot. Don’t listen to DS.

hylian_elf

Oh no not another one of those people.

Syph79

It’s just not. It’s really good, but the new systems force you to play in a particular way, whereas the reboot was a bit more open to the player to choose how to play.

Tempy

Choice doesn’t always equal better. I really enjoyed it, but 2016 has a lack of meaningful distinction between its weapons, meaning you can effectively swap between any of them at will, but with the machine gun getting infinite rockets and a huge well of ammo it just becomes a crutch.

Eternal forcing you to engage with all of it’s weapons due to low ammo counts starts off annoying but reveals itself to be a brilliant design choice because you have to get used to the intricacies of evey weapon, and remain aware of what you’ve got in the tank for each gun, which enemies they fare best against, and consider which enemies you need to prioritise to splatter or glory kill. I think the only dropped ball is the Arbalest, which feels a tad too slow, but it has its limited use cases. Everything else comes up in the rotation, even the Shotgun has a reason to be used vs the Supershotgun, which could have easily been an flat upgrade.

Dark Soldier

I use the main shotgun a lot as its 3x shell upgrade is powerful as all fuck.

Im playing on the normal equivalent and die a fair bit as im still ham fisted with keyboard controls, shit really ramps up after the opening section. Can see this being a bastard to play with pad though as its so insanely hectic and once you get into the flow with k&m it feels phenomenal.

Its so damn intense though that I can only play 2 or 3 hours at a time as you need to be on the ball.

Tempy

Rarely bothered with the 3x shot on the regular shotgun, mainly used it for saving ammo against smaller stuff vs the Super, and the explosive shot. For a game that makes you jump through its hoops to play it well, it has a lot of breadth to your ability to approach it. Plays like a good spectacle fighter in that regard.

Syph79

Dark Soldier wrote:

I use the main shotgun a lot as its 3x shell upgrade is powerful as all fuck.

Im playing on the normal equivalent and die a fair bit as im still ham fisted with keyboard controls, shit really ramps up after the opening section. Can see this being a bastard to play with pad though as its so insanely hectic and once you get into the flow with k&m it feels phenomenal.

Its so damn intense though that I can only play 2 or 3 hours at a time as you need to be on the ball.

I died a lot on the PS4, but got there in the end. I just felt like I was bouncing off its systems all the time and I rarely had a run of more than 10 minutes without dying. Spoilt the flow for me.

Dinostar77

Syph79, am i still ok to borrow this from you when u get it back?

Dark Soldier

Tempy wrote:

Rarely bothered with the 3x shot on the regular shotgun, mainly used it for saving ammo against smaller stuff vs the Super, and the explosive shot. For a game that makes you jump through its hoops to play it well, it has a lot of breadth to your ability to approach it. Plays like a good spectacle fighter in that regard.

Definitely, the introduction of clear weak points really adds strategy to the battlefield, regrouping to some extent to zoom in in the heavy machine gun, scoping in to hit those crits and then wade back in.

Its a wonderful thing. Ive done two slayer gates so far also, those things are nails.

Verecocha

I couldn’t ever swap out the Classic Shotty, using the pull assist to throw you around the map as speed was awesome and kept the combos going.

Syph79

Dinostar77 wrote:

Syph79, am i still ok to borrow this from you when u get it back?

Absolutely mate

Tempy

Dark Soldier wrote:

Tempy wrote:

Rarely bothered with the 3x shot on the regular shotgun, mainly used it for saving ammo against smaller stuff vs the Super, and the explosive shot. For a game that makes you jump through its hoops to play it well, it has a lot of breadth to your ability to approach it. Plays like a good spectacle fighter in that regard.

Definitely, the introduction of clear weak points really adds strategy to the battlefield, regrouping to some extent to zoom in in the heavy machine gun, scoping in to hit those crits and then wade back in.

Its a wonderful thing. Ive done two slayer gates so far also, those things are nails.

Slayer gates are great. I kept trying it on and off with a controller and despite usually finding it easy enough to switch back and forth, it really felt far more natural with a mouse. Some of the later gates are a real rush!

Moot_Geeza

I liked the marauders in the end but I'm also in the 2016 club.

nick_md

40% off

https://store.playstation.com/en-gb/product/EP1003-CUSA16296_00-DOOM64X199700000

Was already cheap tbh

nick_md

£1.19 PC even better!

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1148590/DOOM_64/

Dinostar77

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-06-26-doom-eternals-latest-update-adds-new-battlemode-map-doom-classic-filter-more

Doom Eternal's latest update adds new Battlemode map, Doom Classic filter, more
Ups the frequency of Empowered Demon

Meanwhile, over in campaign mode, Empowered Demons will now appear in-game on a more frequent basis. Empowered Demons, if you're unfamiliar, are particularly deadly (but optional) opponents with a unique trick; they're designed to hop from one player's solo campaign to another every time they successfully eliminate the campaign's host, growing more and more powerful until a player brings their reign to an end.

today's update also adds a few new ones, including a Doom Classic filter, which pixels things up and applies a 256-colour palette.

Dark Soldier

Etenal is just the best thing ever. Just had a four hour session on it fly by

Dinostar77

I just gotta be patient to get it from syph79. Im playing alien isolation and got project cars 2 coming so i can wait. But i certainly will be eager to play when it does.

Syph79

Dinostar77 wrote:

I just gotta be patient to get it from syph79. Im playing alien isolation and got project cars 2 coming so i can wait. But i certainly will be eager to play when it does.

I’ve asked my mate if he can speed up a little for you Dino.

stonechalice

Dark Soldier wrote:

Etenal is just the best thing ever. Just had a four hour session on it fly by

You on PC DS? M&K? It felt weird with a controller. I'm gonna give it another shot once I'm done with TLou2...

Dark Soldier

stonechalice wrote:

Dark Soldier wrote:

Etenal is just the best thing ever. Just had a four hour session on it fly by

You on PC DS? M&K? It felt weird with a controller. I'm gonna give it another shot once I'm done with TLou2...

Yeah man m&k in all FPS now, its a million times better now i've kinda got the hang of it.

Dinostar77

Syph79 wrote:

Dinostar77 wrote:

I just gotta be patient to get it from syph79. Im playing alien isolation and got project cars 2 coming so i can wait. But i certainly will be eager to play when it does.

I’ve asked my mate if he can speed up a little for you Dino.

Dude no need. There was no hinting there. Im cool. No rush. Let your mate enjoy it.

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