Raiziel wrote:

IanHamlett wrote:

acemuzzy wrote:

DC is in?? METROPOLITAN STREET RACER!

My man.

Yeah but PGR bettered it, surely.  Wanted to squeeze PGR 2 on to my list but no room.

Indeed. PGR2 was the pinnacle. It's never been bettered online either.

This will be a tough gen, I bought and played a hell of a lot of games around this time.

At least one GTA will get in, Halo 2, Soul Calibur 2, Warioware, Timesplitters 2, Wind Waker,MK:DD.

hylian_elf wrote:

PC: 14 October 1999 (DC release in UK) to 11 March 2005 (DS release in UK). Agreed?

Sounds great to me!

Oops, you're right & not just about my spelling of honour. Not sure what i was playing & no longer have the box to look. Time for some googling.. . can remember it started with an epic landing on Omaha beach.

Deus Ex
WarioWare Twisted
KoTOR
Unreal Tournament
Vice CIty
Metal Gear Solid 2
Resident Evil 4
Mario Golf Advance Tour
Mario Kart Super Circuit
Virtua Tennis


Will put reasons up later!

I read that as "ian cafe", and could not work out why Cafes owned by ians made for better Medal of Honor.

Liveinadive wrote:

I read that as "ian cafe", and could not work out why Cafes owned by ians made for better Medal of Honor.

I read it as 'my mate Ian owned a cafe', which was no where near what it said. I just imagined they used to hang out at Ian's cafe a lot playing computer games.

01. Metroid Prime
02. Wind Waker
03. Super Smash Bros Melee
04. KOTOR II: The Sith Lords
05. F-Zero GX
06. Capcom vs SNK 2
07. Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
08. Burnout
09. Gran Turismo 3
10. Viewtiful Joe

OK, in order, including Xbox, Dreamcast and Gamecube games (while I eventually got a PS2, not much really had a place in my heart, it felt a soulless machine to me, excepting Ico and Timesplitters 2)

1. Metroid Prime (amazing re-imaging of my favourite SNES game)
2. Resident Evil 4 (as has already been discussed many times on this forum)
3. Halo (The Silent Cartographer, say no more)
4. Zelda: Wind Waker (loved it from the first screen shot, even when loads of people complained about the cel shaded artwork)
5. Shenmue (game I didn't want to end, even the going to work moving boxes around was strangely compelling)
6. Metropolis Street Racer (great cars, great driving, great settings)
7. Jet Set Radio Future (couldn't get on with the first one, the flow of this game was amazing, and Beastie Boys on the soundtrack, what's not to like)
8. Super Monkey Ball (best multiplayer family game ever = Monkey Target)
9. Animal Crossing (first game the whole family played. Remember my GF at the time who worked at a school pretty much played this all summer long when she was off)
10. Virtua Tennis 2 (the best tennis game just got a bit better, love for the mini games)

Special mentions to: Mario Sunshine (almost, but not quite), Crazy Taxi (great in small does), Ikaruga (for kicking my ass), Rogue Leader (can't remember which one, but was the best console star wars until KOTOR turned up). Soul Calibur and Code Veronica get bumped off my top 10, due to the Xbox.

Quake 3's another good shout. Any chance we can each have a top 15 or 20 instead of 10? This generation will be hard to pin down otherwise.

I don't know if it's in my top 10 but I wanted to make sure any evaluation of this gen doesn't pass without at least mentioning Spider-Man 2.

Job done.

JonB wrote:

Liveinadive wrote:

I read that as "ian cafe", and could not work out why Cafes owned by ians made for better Medal of Honor.

I read it as 'my mate Ian owned a cafe', which was no where near what it said. I just imagined they used to hang out at Ian's cafe a lot playing computer games.

That is a life I want to live.

optimark_prime wrote:

You forget just how many fantastic games were released in this era!

PS2 is my fave after SNES.

My draft top 10 :

1, 2 and 3 are in my Best Ever list.

1. Super Monkey Ball
2. Worms Armageddon
3. Mario Kart DD

4. Virtua Tennis (1 or 2)
Tennis is the perfect sport to recreate in a video game. Everything can be seen on the screen at once. It can also accommodate 4 people and 2 vs 2 is an under represented experience. It has great arcade style pick up and play control which will grow with you. It still looks pretty splendid - especially via the DC's VGA cable. There's mini games too.

5. RType Final
Initially this is just another, albeit excellent, entry in the R-Type series. Then you start to unlock different levels and ships and it becomes something more. The Score attack mode becomes the Gran Turismo of shooting games with over 100 ships, 53 force orbs, 12 options/bits, 10 kinds of missiles and 5 different dose attacks that can be mixed and matched. Endless. Also has a bizarre turn-based battle mode for 2 players.

6. Gunbird 2
At first this looks like a hum drum by-the-number vertical shooting game but Gunbird 2 still gets attention in shmupping circles, and with good reason.

There's the compulsive chaining mechanic - large scores are built by grabbing enemy dropped coins while they glint for a few frames. You also have several weapons at your disposal; each differing greatly in their effectiveness across the available cast of characters and each coming with their own risks (be it a close quarter weapon or one that requires a delay before activating) The Dreamcast version's single player mode is boosted by a novel option that lets you pick 2 characters who tag-team on each life loss.

7. Rez
A game that lets you feel the rhythm of a level. Sight, sounds and feedback in harmony and all that jazz - but what really counts is that at its core is "just" interaction boiled down to only what is enjoyable. That, and the fact that it is wrapped up in such glorious sights and sounds, is what makes this so memorable and so damn enjoyable. It's high repayability is cranked up by the unlockable extras to further extend its life and give you plenty to go back to.

8. Mr Driller
Pure arcade crack - and it's further enhanced when experienced on the Dreamcast with the beautifully responsive arcade stick. The main game is great and has an epic challenge but it's rounded out nicely with time trial and survival modes. No matter how long I've owned this I always enjoy going back to it - the simplicity of it all means it's pretty close to Tetris in its purity.

9. F Zero GX
Sega took the best arcade style racing game ever and added their coat of polish to it. The environments have that epic feel, the tracks are magnificent and this is content packed. Time trial, practice and multi-player modes are present and correct but are now accompanied by a brutal story mode that is of the pure old-school try, try and try again paradigm. Looks gorgeous too.

10. Warioware Inc
When I first played this it was like being in mental free fall. While you won't get that rush back once you've played it to completion, it offers many different ways to replay the mini games - from the hard-core obsessive solo practice mode through the joyous multi-player modes which will last for years.

You'd have to include the original Forza on Xbox too.. That was a milestone for car games.