Knight wrote:

In light of the left vs right thing re the conservatives I thought I’d chip in with what I’d like to see from a conservative party given it’s probably my more natural home (although there’s no chance I’d vote for them this time). I know I’m in a huge minority on this forum so be gentle! I’d want the conservatives to be more to the ‘left’ economically than some wings of the party are and more to the ‘right’ (ie socially conservative) than pretty much every wing of the party is (aside from a small number who are derided). So for example, I’d like women to be free to stay at home with their kids if they want to and the state to make that as easy as possible (ie through economic incentives). I’d like immigration to be controlled much more than we are doing so that a. wages aren’t depressed for the poorest. I know this is contested, I just don’t accept the idea that very high levels of immigration like we’re seeing won’t depress wages in certain sectors, usually the ones that the poorest in society are more likely to work in) and b. the already creaking public services and housing provision (especially for the poorest and most vulnerable) don’t fall apart even more than they are doing. Id like the empty and sometimes cruel rhetoric around immigration to end and the state to be both far more compassionate to outsiders AND far more effective at controlling immigration numbers. I’d like the state to find ways (realistically, economic ones) to promote marriage and come up with genuine pro-natal policies. Why are we capping child tax credits at 2? Has anyone noticed the fertility rate? It depresses me that our political system makes it almost impossible to vote for a party like this.

GooberTheHat wrote:

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