It was definitely a factor, but it's difficult to say how much of a factor.Diluted Dante wrote:Not could be, definately is.
More likelihood of the Lib Dems overtaking Labour, I'd say.cockbeard wrote:Greens could sort their shit out maybe
cockbeard wrote:Surely it doesn't matter what happens to Labour, the sooner we lose the bipartite bullshit the better. It's not as if Labour are doing anything fundamentally different to the Tories threes days Country needs a proper opposition, not one that will garner any votes, but one that can shout loud enough that people start to believe public mood had shifted
monkey wrote:This by election probably isn't that representative of much so I'd be wary of trying to draw too much from it. Lot of weird stuff going on. No official Tory candidate, an independent that wasn't really and that loads of people liked and loads of people completely despised, called on a local issue that then wasn't even on the ballot, Labour members trying to drum up support for the Lib Dem on polling day. If there was a GE next year the Tories could easily take it back.
monkey wrote:This by election probably isn't that representative of much so I'd be wary of trying to draw too much from it.
Yossarian wrote:monkey wrote:This by election probably isn't that representative of much so I'd be wary of trying to draw too much from it.
True, but if it helps, it wasn't the only by-election yesterday.
Southbourne (Chichester) result:
LDEM: 57.7% (+15.8 )
CON: 25.8% (-32.3)
UKIP: 11.8% (+11.8 )
LAB: 4.7% (+4.7)
monkey wrote:Still, Blair and Thatcher used to get hammered in by-elections then those same constituencies would swing back to them at GE time.
acemuzzy wrote:Right-wing tabloids help with the shouting
She's a rancid shrieking idiot. Still, these are the sort of arguments that need to be won rather than run away from.legaldinho wrote:Julia Hartley brewer is a cunt and a hack, I'd pay it zero mind.
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