At least people actually played the ranked games in H3, as opposed to steering clear of them in Reach.

On now

Again, I'd argue that you wouldn't have seen the extent of the problem Knight, being that you were a 50.

My highest is 27. Almost every game would see someone way, way, way too good for that game. And you'd check them and see that they had a gamerscore of 250. All online Halo 3 achievements.

If you were good enough to get to the mid 40's and up, you'd likely not notice these people, because they would have been around your level anyway.

My main list was Lone Wolves, and it's mostly this I'm referring to. Though I seem to recall Team Doubles became rife with this too. Post Reach, it seems to have got worse.

Bear in mind that I played a lot less than you, so my almost every game would be lot less then yours.

Always a pleasure!

@Knight, I'm with @Dante. Halo 3's system was utterly gimped by second accounters. Depending on the play list, you would find a second account almost every game. Like people have said, if you were already high ranked, you wouldn't really notice, because a guy who's really a 50 playing as 43 isn't going to make much difference. For those of us in the 20s and 30s, we could never get any higher because we'd get beaten by a level 10 (who was really a 50 in MLG) called 'iTz BR A POPPIN v.2' or some shit. Shyam and I had to give up Doubles because there was no point playing it, every damn team we played was two guys with second accounts, or a second accounter boosting his buddy.

I agree that 3's ranking system was better than Reach's, but people are dicks, especially on XBL, and it was ruined by the players.

Arena was probably a step too far, but I can see why Bungie tried it. Arena was abandoned because you had to play X games in Y time, which means you can't play on your own schedule, and because Reach (as we've discussed) didn't have that competitive a style of play.

I still think the best solution would be something of a blend of Reach and Halo 3. If you start a second account you lose your permanent rank, all the armour you've unlocked, something to make you want to keep your first account. The competitive play lists should have a second ranking, one that goes up and down depending on how well you're doing.

Knight, second accounts weren't a problem for you because you were already a 40+er. Towards the end of Halo 3's life, for those of us of mid rank, the ranking system may as well have not existed. We may as well have been fighting completely random people, because the game thought that 'iTz BR MAN 64 v3' was the same skill as me, when he was actually much higher. Trust me on this, Knight, for us of middling skill, Halo 3 was almost ruined by second accounters. I know, because I really started to hate ranked Halo 3 in the run up to Reach. Halo 3, for me, was not as much fun, because of second accounters. You can argue it wasn't a problem as much as you want, but for me, it really was a problem. You may as well try to persuade me that a type of food I dislike is actually delicious.

@Billy_Hologram I did love the bought accounts. "I've just spent $100 to get a number next to my name in Halo 3's MLG list. Hmm, I'm a bit shit, though, don't want to lose my 50. I know, I'll just play multi-team all the time, and call people fagnoobs! A WINNER IS ME."

Ooh I can always be talked into Halo!! Though remember if it's classic the opposition can't touch me,it's its vanilla Reach I can't touch them down to moaning and frustration.

I think he's been on record as saying there is no H2 remake on the cards.

I'm kinda glad. While CE more than holds up, 2 is a mess and a chore to get through (played through recently).

Very much looking forward to monday though. 

I'll try and get on for 930-10. I don't mind winning at classic so much.

JRPC wrote:

While CE more than holds up, 2 is a mess and a chore to get through (played through recently).

It would need to be more re-imagining than remake like CEA.

LesterUnlimited wrote:

2 had the weakest campaign experience if only because it made me play The Arbiter which I had no interest in and the constant jumping between roles. Also remember Sniper Alley on Legendary? I would place CE in top-spot followed by 3 and ODST in joint 2nd and Reach a very close 3rd.

Bloody new forum - messed up your post.

Don't worry, fixed.

You guys are clearly mental. Playing as the Arbiter was amazeballs.

I actually like the Arbiter as a character. I think the problem was that the game around him wasn't up to scratch. I'd be fine with Arbiter sections in 4 (although I doubt it).

The problem with 2 was it was obviously unfinished and rushed out the door. I'm pretty sure I remember Bungie saying as much, too.

It had it's moments mind. I love the Hog bits at the beginning and the tank across the bridge was ace.

You shoot aliens, Hulka. With laser guns.

Why the fuck is the text in the quote struck through?

Blue Swirl wrote:

Hulka T wrote:

o the covies came to earth because there was a relic buried there/here? But they only sent a few ships? Was there a tracking becon on it or somesuch? They didnt know we were here? Someone help.

Yes. They work out during CE or early on in 2 that the gizmo that sets all the Halos off at once is buried on Earth. The Covenant want to use it to achieve {insert religious shite here}. However, as the humans have been guarding the location of Earth from the Covenant (hence why the Pillar of Autumn makes a random jump at the start of Halo CE), the covies didn't realise that the two planets were the same place. This is why they turn up with fuck all ships for the "invasion" of Earth. Also, what Tiger said.

Hang on, wasn't the whole point of Reach that it wasn't a random jump?

No, I mean wasn't the point of getting Cortana to the Autumn at the end of Reach so that they could find the Halo ring?