cockbeard wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

Those all assume at least some knowledge of video games, though.

Yes because some prior knowledge is the only way to get a telly programme on the telly (honourable mention goes out to Kabaddi here)

But then how many people do you know who have no gaming knowledge, I sincerely doubt that anyone under fifty hasn't played a few hours. I mean we grew up with consoles everywhere in front of us and we're all heading swiftly towards 40, I'm pretty sure that makes "people with prior knowledge of games" a pretty large demographic

It's people with prior knowledge of games who also enjoy watching people play games, a much smaller demographic, I'd say, and one which is also split among the hundreds if not thousands of places that they can watch exactly the game they want to watch being played right now.

Competence is fine, but I'll take someone shit but personally entertaining over someone competent but not every time, as I think would most people.

Translating the skill of a gameplay video to a non player is incredibly difficult.

My Gran can appreciate the skill of Ryan Giggs dancing round Arsenal players and twatting it into the top corner.

That Street Fighter video? Not so much.

Thank fuck this isn't a dance forum as the Strictly thread would have claimed about 50 casualties at this rate.

Yossarian wrote:

Liveinadive wrote:

People can be competent AND entertaining.

Not many, they'd run out of guests very quickly.

Maybe if they rely on the limited DAVE phonebook.

Diluted Dante wrote:

Translating the skill of a gameplay video to a non player is incredibly difficult.

My Gran can appreciate the skill of Ryan Giggs dancing round Arsenal players and twatting it into the top corner.

That Street Fighter video? Not so much.

Depends on the game. Use Rocket League and you're on to a winner.

@Paul, they played Rocket League last week.

Yossarian wrote:

Ah, they should be holding auditions? I can't see why they wouldn't do that. I'm sure they've got loads of money.

TV have people called researchers. They get paid shit money and one of their jobs is to find people appropriate to be on the shows being created. Sometimes they get runners to do it who get paid somewhere between shit and nothing.

Paul the sparky wrote:

Was it awesome?

Unfortunately no, won by an own goal of all things.

Paul the sparky wrote:

That's still pretty awesome. Best game.

You'd think but it was some tit driving in a straight line, probably because they didn't know how to turn. Felt like a missed opportunity with a great MP game.

Liveinadive wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

Ah, they should be holding auditions? I can't see why they wouldn't do that. I'm sure they've got loads of money.

TV have people called researchers. They get paid shit money and one of their jobs is to find people appropriate to be on the shows being created. Sometimes they get runners to do it who get paid somewhere between shit and nothing.

Again, I don't think there are that many people who can manage both. Certainly not that many who can manage both and appeal beyond a base of gamers.

davyK wrote:

The numbers and feedback from when it was first done at the Edinburgh Festival must have hinted at an audience. If it is annoying a lot of gamers here then who is it aimed at?

I don't know, the same sort of people who watched it at Edinburgh? It's not a games festival.

As I say, talking about 'people who game' is misleading. Loads of people game, people who enjoy watching others game is a subset of that.

I wouldn't have watched a minute of this if it was purely aimed at gamers.

Paul the sparky wrote:

I haven't watched a minute of it. What do I win?

25 minutes of your life.

I wont be watching again.
Piss tier gaming.
Below average comedy.

retroking1981 wrote:

Paul the sparky wrote:

Was it awesome?

Unfortunately no, won by an own goal of all things.

It was a perfect example of where competency and practice would have made for better footage. One player had worked out if you race straight for the ball at kick of, triggering and using the boosts, and taking your finger off the trigger shortly before reaching the ball, and you can easily chip it into the goal from kick off. As such, the game was 2-0 in a matter of seconds, with the only worthwhile footage being a three second bit of acceleration. The only reason it wasn't 3-0 straight away is that he fluffed the approach from the wing, nothing to do with the opposition doing anything to stop it. Then, we at least got to see some gameplay. It was clear that at least two of them had no clue about toggling between cameras, and spent large portions driving around with no idea what was going on around them.

There's no reason why any of them couldn't have had more practice to develop competency, and still have entertaining chat. Just because it's beyond Yoss's comprehension doesn't make it impossible.