Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice - The Bear and Badger

Curtis

I fucking LOVE this early part of From games where you are trying to figure out enemies, patterns, weaknesses, attacks, reach, i-frames, items (and their usefulness), environmental exploits (oh yes, i'm that guy). Do you press more and see where that cave leads, or homeward bone it, and bank/spend your XP?

No wiki to guide you, no Youtube to mislead you (based on what they think is right), just you versus the game.

In short: its just sublime, like all of Miyazaki's creations.

Dark Soldier

oh good lord the parry and the combat oh good lord

Curtis

I actually think this new punishment upon death is way more strict than the Souls bloodstain we're used to (it has layers, not only the immediate XP and item loss). Especially if you don't learn your lesson and walk into the same shit repeatedly. Play smart!

Dubs

Gah, the first few hours were fairly negative for me but I'm still in Nioh mode. Hopefully it'll click soon.

I liked the fish at least.

Kernowgaz

Fuck me it got fucking rock hard, I’m more of a button basher.

Got to

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Curtis

Dubs wrote:

Gah, the first few hours were fairly negative for me but I'm still in Nioh mode. Hopefully it'll click soon. I liked the fish at least.

Trust me, i've been playing jolly coop Nioh most weekends, the transition has been a nightmare! X to evade? Nope! Also pressing square to use items like Souls. lol! I can't win.

This evening after a few beers has been much better. Just relaxed, taking my time, hit & run type Ninja playstyle.

Speedhaak

No performance mode for console? PC again then.

b0r1s

Thought it ran at 60fps?

Dark Soldier

On PC yes, console lol nope

GurtTractor

Can it run at higher than 60? Or does the engine still tie together the frame rate and the physics/game logic?

Dark Soldier

60fps cap

GurtTractor

Literally unplayable.

SeanySean

Is there any multiplayer on this? Hoping not so I can pick up a second hand copy on the cheap once uni's over...

Dark Soldier

Nah no MP mate, pure SP experience

Vela

Sounds like it's no good on ps4 base console. Pass for me.

Dark Soldier

Dan's playing it on base and seems fine with it.

Curtis

Fuck performance, fps and resolution! Let Miyazaki fuck you in the ass, and make you question why you play games at all.

digi

Time to git gud all over again scrubs!
In the best way.

Curtis

I'm gonna say it: Nioh is a better game for me. The RPG elements and build diversity appeal to me way more than a '1 play and done campaign' like this.

Mikemsp

But if Sekiro was like that it would just be Nioh, considering the setting etc.

I know what you mean about the once through and done though. Though personally I was never a huge one for builds, it was all about the first time through, nothing can replicate that, for me. And subsequent playthroughs I always left a large gap between them and was basically trying to replicate that initial feeling each time I played through. So hopefully this game will appeal to my playstyle.

Unfortunate won’t get chance to play it til tonight ah well!

JonB

Nioh was one and done for me, so a lot of the loot and RPG stuff was effectively redundant. On the other hand, I've always liked doing different builds with Souls, but I'm glad that's not a thing in Sekiro. It's just good to have something different.

Anyway, I'm through the opening section. Seems very promising. The speed and brutality of the combat already stands out.

JonB

And because it's pure SP you can actually pause the game!

Kernowgaz

JonB wrote:

And because it's pure SP you can actually pause the game!

But if you’re shit like me, you can’t get help :-(

Dinostar77

Curtis@ dubs@ fight mechanics in sekiro better than Nioh?

Mikemsp

@kernowgaz Yeah I’m worried about that as I have a tendency to summon help on hard bosses rather than actually improve my skills!

hylian_elf

Game have changed opening times to 9:30. Grrr. Getting a coffee while I wait.

JonB

The stealth aspect really changes how you approach the main parts of levels. Movement with the grapple is so quick, so even if you get seen stealth killing one enemy it's quite easy to get away and find safe ground. Clearing out an area of normal enemies is great fun and very different to Souls/Nioh.

I'm struggling with proper fighting so far though. It's mostly a case of timing those parries, which was always a problem I had with Souls and Bloodborne. But I guess it'll come with practice. I've not done a proper boss yet, which will presumably be where the proper challenge comes in.

Dubs

It's feels just about different enough to be interesting, Dino, but can feel very limiting. I feel like I'm being forced to grind out bigger enemies until I can parry everything and the resurrection mechanic is supposed to ease the grind against the one-hit-kills. Also, the HUD sucks, why is the enemy posture bar so tiny?

At the moment, I prefer Nioh's fluidity and breadth, but it's still day one and that's the memory of Nioh's endgame where I'd been using the same setup for 20 hours. It is satisfying when you get into a nice flow and the one proper boss I've fought was fun.

Just realised that you can pause when the enemy starts attacking to cheat. Thrust? Sweep? Grab? Press OPTIONS for ninja reflexes.

Paul the sparky

Dubs wrote:

Just realised that you can pause when the enemy starts attacking to cheat. Thrust? Sweep? Grab? Press OPTIONS for ninja reflexes.

Elf will play it like that, since they took his bell away.

afgavinstan

This again looks like a game I'll get more joy out of watching pros rinse it than I would attempting and failing miserably to handle it myself.

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