Facewon wrote:

MattyJ wrote:

Speedhaak wrote:

MattyJ wrote:

I'd rather have faster cooldowns in PvE, especially for grenades.

You're not the only one to make this observation, apparently.

Trouble is, Bungie still won't separate out PvE and PvP, so we'll be stuck with it in PvE so their precious PvP doesn't get changed.

I'd settle for having saveable load outs and then setting up armour builds with the right perks. Cool down can change pretty drastically with the right combos.

That would be an extremely useful feature. Good call.

Solo queuing is going to be rough, by the looks of it, I feel like going mob-handed is mandatory now, rather than advisory like D1. The pvp is teams moving in groups around the map, teamshooting everything, with very little opportunity to lone wolf it. Very few 1v1's happening, if at all.
Whether this is good or bad depends on your point of view, I suppose.

MoesTavern wrote:

Solo queuing is going to be rough, by the looks of it, I feel like going mob-handed is mandatory now, rather than advisory like D1. The pvp is teams moving in groups around the map, teamshooting everything, with very little opportunity to lone wolf it. Very few 1v1's happening, if at all. Whether this is good or bad depends on your point of view, I suppose.

I'd hazard a guess that you've been playing the new mode?

I've been playing Control solo, and Gonz might not believe it based on our games yesterday, but I've been absolutely wrecking it. Plenty of 1v1's. If you want to solo, this is your mode. The other one is much more similar to Trials.

I wasn't sure about this beforehand, but 4v4 does work with Control, or at the least does on this map. I'm not quite on board with the cooldown times for abilities, particularly grenades, I think that needs tweaking. Overall though, I'm very positive about the game.

Whoever mentioned the instadeath missiles - they aren't actually. If you are close enough to pop into the bubble, you're fine. If you aren't, stay there, and you're fine. It's the running in when you're to far away that kills you. I stayed around there for a bit experimenting with various stuff, and i have tyo say, after I also was instakilled first time, it was absolutely my fault.

Lord_Griff wrote:

Which edition should one pre-order?

PS4 Pro bundle

Diluted Dante wrote:

Solo queuing is going to be rough, by the looks of it, I feel like going mob-handed is mandatory now, rather than advisory like D1. The pvp is teams moving in groups around the map, teamshooting everything, with very little opportunity to lone wolf it. Very few 1v1's happening, if at all. Whether this is good or bad depends on your point of view, I suppose.

I'd hazard a guess that you've been playing the new mode? I've been playing Control solo, and Gonz might not believe it based on our games yesterday, but I've been absolutely wrecking it. Plenty of 1v1's. If you want to solo, this is your mode. The other one is much more similar to Trials. I wasn't sure about this beforehand, but 4v4 does work with Control, or at the least does on this map. I'm not quite on board with the cooldown times for abilities, particularly grenades, I think that needs tweaking. Overall though, I'm very positive about the game. Whoever mentioned the instadeath missiles - they aren't actually. If you are close enough to pop into the bubble, you're fine. If you aren't, stay there, and you're fine. It's the running in when you're to far away that kills you. I stayed around there for a bit experimenting with various stuff, and i have tyo say, after I also was instakilled first time, it was absolutely my fault.

Mostly Control, actually. In the few games of Countdown I had I found it to be quite the opposite, teams tended to split up to go to either bombsite rather than follow each other around. Control feels like a merry go round with teams dashing from flag to flag.
The aiming is weird, too. I don't know what it is but moving the crosshair diagonally in particular feels strange.
One thing I've noticed as well after playing Halo 5 is how sluggish the weapon handling is, H5 feels so much snappier and responsive and it's not just the 60fps.

Control is way better now. Like the maps a lot. Everything has been polished up. It's still rage inducing so I won't be putting much time into PvP, but it's bloody great fun for a couple of matches.

The competitive search and destroy game type is also extremely awesome. Gonz and I wiped the floor in there.

https://youtu.be/KXXdczop1ak

Guy can be immature but he talks sense here.

Got a couple of hours of crucible in tonight and got a much better flavour for it.

Ended up with a scout/cannon combo with a shotty in power slot.

Swapping between the two primaries at different ranges feels completely intuitive and varies up the moment to moment stuff really well. Although i can see me sticking with that particular set up, there also seems to be room for many of the various weapons to shine. If you let am SMG get up close to you it wrecks!

Supers are too infrequent and i think the power weapons could do with a little more oomph. Apart from that, i think things are looking very good indeed.

It's certainly a very different beast to d1, but so far it's a big thumbs up from me.

I think the ability times are fine in PvP but need to be upped in PvE, ability spam is a huge problem in Destiny 1 currently. I'm enjoying PvP but the better you are at it, the less you'll be able to lonewolf due to smarter teams ALWAYS laning with primaries and teamshotting. The fusion rifle in the beta is completely broken btw, hopefully it'll get nerfed for release, maybe even just halve the amount of ammo you get.

Considering I never, ever use a fusion in D1...

https://twitter.com/DarxideR_/status/888410707146027008

The hunter sniper is woefully weak. Hunters in general seem a bit fragile and not too exciting. The dodge roll is a bit poo.

Some power weapons defo need a buff, others need a nerf.

Power ammo needs to drop more frequently in PvE for sure, and supers need to charge a teeny bit faster - everyone using their super in the last thirty seconds of the match is silly.

Just played the Charge PvP. Really fun game mode. With a bunch of ransoms and no mics we initially were getting battered but once we'd figured out the tactic we took it to nearly a drawer but they just managed to diffuse our charge at the last second. Great mode tho.

Played the story stuff earlier. So much, so Destiny.

Will almost certainly buy it but I doubt I'll play anything like as much as the first time around. Haven't tried PvP yet but they have a lot of work to do on that front to get me to care again. Would prefer to go Bono but might well go for PS4 this time around.

yesss go PS4 please Tiggs

Really? Mostly positive for me. Some feedback about improvements which apparently their internal testing flagged up and have already been implemented.

Hmm. This snippit piqued my interest:

4v4 Control is crap imo. Based on what I played the Crucible is going to be great for people who excelled at Trials of Osiris but frustrating as fuck for those who didn't enjoy the sweaty team-shot focussed style of play that that mode required. 6v6 Control on the larger maps was where I excelled & got my enjoyment from when I was a heavy Crucible player but I just don't see where that experience is going to be found in Destiny 2.

Because that described my D1 experience also, but our D2 experiences couldn't be further apart. I was very skeptical of 4v4 control, but it just works for me. Perhaps it's down to the beta bringing in people who don't normally play, but I've been bossing it mostly playing solo, no team shooting required.

Control has been, for me, bags of fun. It is a slightly different experience, but it's still familiar enough to tickle the same spots.

I see the concerns with PvE though.