trippy's right, the engine needs fucking out. I guess in that respect I do feel sorry for the devs. Pissing against the wind comes to mind.

Blocks100 wrote:

Surprised to hear you say that Roujin as I thought you didn't want Bethesda anywhere near the Fallout series.

Makes me genuinely worried about how Starfield is going to turn out now. They're obviously wedded to Gamebyro for life. Incrementally tweaking it in the hope that it'll splutter out yet another title.  Sad.

They can go near the series, just stop fucking it up by trying to give it the broadest demographic appeal possible, just make a really good post apocalyptic RPG set in a nuclear wasteland where humans are clinging to their existence and thriving in the wastes is a rarity, not the norm it had become in F4 where loot was everywhere and people are single handedly building towns complete with running electricity all over the place and modifying up pre war military high tech gear like it was putting a new chain on a bike or something. People will buy that game if you give it a chance.

New Vegas was a good example that showed you don't need to follow the Vault Dweller route for your player characters but Bethesda seem to be unable to work like that, I mean their answer for a new faction in F4 was fucking blade runner androids.

I fear that Bethesda are pretty much chasing shareholder returns on investment at this point though judging by the fact that every single bus stop in my town has a poster for this game on it like this is Avengers Infinity War or something.

Oh and second Trippy and Haak, that engine gotta go already, it's way past it's use by date.

Which is exactly what I did last night.  Damn thing was downloading its 50GB 1 day patch even though my payment history showed that, due to the quite fortuitous event of my credit card being cancelled recently by my bank due to 'suspicious activity', I hadn't actually paid for it.  No need to even cancel my pre-order!

But I'd be lying if I didn't say my finger didn't hover over the purchase button for at least a fleeting second.  I bought my original Xbox to play Morrowind, not Halo.  Upgraded my PC just to play Oblivion.  Bought Skyrim across three different platforms.  Invested thousands of hours in Fallout 3 & 4.  So it was bloody hard to admit that the Bethesda I once knew was simply no more.

Currently averaging a whopping 2.8 on Metacritc user scores, it's clear that Fallout 76 could be Bethesda's 'Mass Effect Andromeda' moment.   A game that symbolizes the death of a developer.  

Here's hoping the critical mauling that is sure to come and the lacklustre sales act as a wake up call to Bethesda so they realise fans can't be shaked down indefinitely.

It only takes one game to ruin the reputation of a developer. And this is that game.  I consider it a watershed moment.  They used to be the don of open world games.  They aren't any more.

Their downfall also coincides with the rise of other devs who are just marmalizing them when it comes to building amazing open world games.

It's the end of an era. I just didn't see it ending like this.

Yeah, steady on there, Blocks. This game is obviously an experiment, and almost seems to me more like a side project while they get on with their real business of making an epic single-player open-worlder (Starfield).

Just reading that. I gave it the benefit of doubt when it was announced, but it looks like everyone who jumped to the MP Bethesda = Shite conclusion were bang on the money. Shame.

Roujin wrote:

Dear Bethesda, please get the message and abandon this shitass cash grab and get back to work on an actual Fallout and Elder Scrolls 6.

But they've never worked on "actual" fallout. They never understood what a Fallout game was meant to be.

I came here for an impartial opinion on this game and wow I'm shocked, it really is that bad!

ZMM wrote:

I came here for an impartial opinion on this game and wow I'm shocked, it really is that bad!

It’s actually out and there’s one poor review 

https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2018/11/16/fallout-76-review/

Yeah man but that was kind of my point yah?

You'd be better off going to a real irradiated wasteland.

afgavinstan wrote:

The Jim Sterling vid on this.... Yeeeeeeeesh.

Thank God for Sterling.

Now I’m usually pretty positive about most games, can usually find something to enjoy in all I play or look forward to playing.
I’ve played the shit outta Oblivion and Skyrim, loved Fallout 3 and NV, found some fun in 4 but this is the first Bethesda game I’ve just gone “nope” flat out since it’s announcement.
A multiplayer Fallout? Fuck off

Is FO3 backwardly compatible? if so you should look it up g. imo it's a genuine modern classic and better than Skyrim.

Yeah FO3 is BC. I think its in the sale as well.
I played through again this year, it holds up in that it's failings were there at the start.