The Outer Worlds - a proper Obsidian RPG. - The Bear and Badger

Dark Soldier

That's not new though where is the innovation

Wookienopants

Hang on. Is it fun to play?
Yes.
Simple

regmcfly

Dark Soldier wrote:

That's not new though where is the innovation

Yeah but we were going at borderlands for being a bit shit not being slight in innovation see yaaaaa

Paul the sparky

Wookienopants wrote:

Hang on. Is it fun to play?
Yes.
Simple

He knows that, he's putting one up reg.

Dark Soldier

regmcfly wrote:

Dark Soldier wrote:

That's not new though where is the innovation

Yeah but we were going at borderlands for being a bit shit not being slight in innovation see yaaaaa

classic reg cowardly drive by smh

Blocks100

Obsidian gets a free pass here, because of what Bethesda and Bioware have become. It is perfectly ok that The Outer World's is 'more of the same' and not all that innovative. This is due to the fact that an 'engrossing single player RPG' almost represents a refreshing innovation in itself, due to the utterly reprehensible practices of those other two devs.

Dark Soldier

If game is liked - free pass, got ya.

see yaaaaa

F'real though its a fun game.

regmcfly

Dark Soldier wrote:

regmcfly wrote:

Dark Soldier wrote:

That's not new though where is the innovation

Yeah but we were going at borderlands for being a bit shit not being slight in innovation see yaaaaa

classic reg cowardly drive by smh

I await the retaliatory gangland massacre in the goty thread.

Wariospeedwagon

Blocks100 wrote:

Obsidian gets a free pass here, because of what Bethesda and Bioware have become. It is perfectly ok that The Outer World's is 'more of the same' and not all that innovative. This is due to the fact that an 'engrossing single player RPG' almost represents a refreshing innovation in itself, due to the utterly reprehensible practices of those other two devs.

Agree with that.

Blocks100 wrote:

Yep the script is great but the technical limitations strip it bare. Having to make a 'tough choice' over which township to save is totally undermined by having only a couple of npcs wandering around. There's no life on this planet.

Think I'm over the 'tough choice' stuff in general. It's a bit too played out. When I know I'm being railroaded into picking the lesser evil they lose their impact.

I like RPGs better as a full on power fantasy ie: things can go really badly due to your incompetence, laziness, nefariousness etc.

SpaceGazelle

acemuzzy wrote:

SpaceGazelle wrote:

With the PC Xbox pass this has to be downloaded to the C drive. Why is that?

I get a choice...

I normally do but not this one. I wouldn't mind but the optimisation is shit anyway. Putting it in Fullscreen mode and a 60 fps cap helps.

mistercrayon

Did anyone manage to get to

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without a massive firefight?

(Mission early on about finding a person who has vanished without a trace)

LivDiv

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afgavinstan

Seeing people gush on this, I'm struggling to draw a conclusion as to whether it's genuinely good and I should pay attention to a future classic or is it just the bar has been set so so low recently for games like this thanks pretty much to Bethesda's fuckery.

mistercrayon

I have a thought about that mission as well outside of the approach.

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Kow

Stupid controls - almost every time I press square to open a door or pick something up, it also unholsters my gun. General clumsiness means I've shot a bunch of people by accident and then it's game over.

LivDiv

Yeah that was pissing me off as well.
I dont know why it needs to be mapped to X/Square to draw. Just have right trigger draw first then fire.

Blocks100

@gav. There certainly is a bit of Obsidian fanboyism going on with this. But that's coupled with a genuine sense of relief at the fact that there is now a proper Western RPG to play that hasn't gone the dreaded multiplayer / loot box route.

The game has its limitations. Enemy AI is even worse than what you might find in a Bethesda game. Picked a fight with a gang of Space Apes as soon as I left my ship. Ran away because they were too tough. They gave up the chase. I was then able to beat on their hides with impunity as they retreated back to their active 'zone'. At which point their AI behaviour was 'reset' and they started attacking me again. I mean, you wouldn't even see that level of dreadfully programmed AI even in Skyrim.

But I'm back on this tonight because it's the closest RPG we'll get to a Han Solo simulator.

Facewon

SpaceGazelle wrote:

With the PC Xbox pass this has to be downloaded to the C drive. Why is that?

Did you do it through the store or the Xbox beta app?

Had same thing with metro. Doing it through the store is a pain, doing stuff through the app allows you to choose drive.

Facewon

As per with MS, the store is a hit fucking shit, and the Xbox app, when I first installed it, wasn't much better, but having had it for a while and it being fairly regularly updated, being a beta and all, it's actually quite nice to use now.

tigersgogrrr

afgavinstan wrote:

Seeing people gush on this, I'm struggling to draw a conclusion as to whether it's genuinely good and I should pay attention to a future classic or is it just the bar has been set so so low recently for games like this thanks pretty much to Bethesda's fuckery.

It's genuinely good. I've not put in as much time as I'd like but it's already far better written than anything Bethesda have done. The best Fallout game since New Vegas - IN SPACE! The issues already mentioned are issues but they aren't big deals, for me.

Kow

There's a bit too much talking and not enough shooting.

Blocks100

It's a game where you kill people with words.

mistercrayon

And guns. Of course marauders aren’t people.

MattyJ

I'm really enjoying it. Am about 5-6 hours in and still dicking about in edgewater, but I'm just embarking on the main quest line there. Can already see a fun choice ahead...

Speedhaak

Love the systems and the writing. However the art direction really isn't clicking with me. Everything seems really over saturated. It almost looks like the world is made to seem deliberately fake? Is that what they were going for? Can see how Fallout fans would love the game though.

MattyJ

mistercrayon wrote:

I have a thought about that mission as well outside of the approach.

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Specifically the distinction between her being a marauders and all the anon marauders and whether just killing her counts as a “botched” mission. Because to my mind the set up and game context is that all marauders are murderable

I would say

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MattyJ

Anyway, not sure on this first decision. Far as I can tell the only issue with the town (besides the corporate brainwashing) is

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LivDiv

I just enjoy that it takes that much consideration.
It's possible to start the game like other WRPGs thinking "I'm going to be a hero" or "I'm a lonewolf and fuck these people, I want all the money" then get hit with that decision and realise it isn't quite that simple.

MattyJ

Yup defo. It was easy at first to think what I'll need to do but they definitely put a lot of shades of grey in there

Dark Soldier

Speedhaak wrote:

Love the systems and the writing. However the art direction really isn't clicking with me. Everything seems really over saturated. It almost looks like the world is made to seem deliberately fake? Is that what they were going for? Can see how Fallout fans would love the game though.

You can turn most of that off on PC, CA is shit when smeared everywhere. Looks lovely with a quick tweak.

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